The thanks goes to you Dan. It's always a pleasure meeting forum members in person. You've taken on a nice little project from Mark and I appreciate you doing that. Hope you end up with some nice red radixes out of those two groups you adopted. I'm also looking forward to seeing some photos of the female T.s.parietalis (Red Sided Garter) you took home with you. She's a worm and tilapia hound. Haven't tried any pinky parts with her but I'm sure she will take to them also.