And snakie in the basement makes 13. Found a young one in my basement yesterday! In the exact same spot I find all of the garters in the basement...there must be a hole in the rafters that they fall through in that spot. Anyway...he could be young or he could just be small like Seeley...he looks exactly like Seeley..stub tail and all. In fact, at first...I thought maybe Seeley had gotten out and managed to get down the basement stairs. Anyway...he seems very healthy. I need to start finding homes for some of these easterns. So...I have the new guy...or gal...but I think it's a male...who is about 10 or 11 inches long...I'm guessing. I'm also guessing he is about a year old at most. I have Ziggy...who I believe is female...she is about 2 feet long...and Athena, the little baby. If all of these snakes turn out to be healthy...I need to find homes for them. So if you are interested in an eastern...PM me. Just be aware that it will be a few months before I can make sure they are healthy and ready to go to a new home.