Thomas I think you bring up a very good point. Scott Felzer told me once that he tries to keep at least 2 males for every female. There was a period where I tried to maximize efficiency by having more females than males, a practice of many other snake species breeders. I have learned (the hard way) that rotating multiple males thru is a better practice. I have been trying to build my male numbers back up the past couple years, but unfortunately the males are the ones that most often die in a long brumation. The other thing I have been trying to do to counteract that is to feed males more heavily in the summer and fall. I am constantly trying to take all these little nuggets and apply them and make mods and do the best I can. This season every one of my females saw multiple males, many saw 4 different males. I think most people that have done much captive breeding of reptiles in general will say that sometimes it seems so easy, other times it seems an impossibility to get it all right every time. It's a lot of fun and anticipation, and when you do produce a nice litter it's a nice reward for all the hard work. Nothing beats opening a tub and seeing all those little eyes looking up at you.