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    Re: breeding garters

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff B View Post
    What Scott refers to as quad hets--he means they are "het" for Nebraska albino, Iowa albino, Iowa snow, and Nebraska snow. Saying they are quad hets, referring to the 4 phenotypes possible in their offspring, is a bit of a misnomer, but to each there own, and quite frankly more people understand this than my technically correct version below.

    Personally I would call them triple hets--because their genotype is heterozygous for: 1.Nebraska albino (T+ gene), 2.Iowa albino (T- gene), and 3.anerythristic gene. Heterozygous for 3 genes.
    While this is the technically and scientifically correct nomenclature to describe the genotype, I end up explaining this to more people and then in the end when someone asks, "so can they make two different kinds of snow" and I tell them "yes they can" and they say "so they are het for snow" I basically give in and reluctantly say " yes aka het snow".
    My point being scientifically correct doesn't have any value if it has no meaning to the audience. So generally, when I sell a multi-het snake I usually post the correct genotype and also add aka " het snow" or whatever, so that if you my audience prefers correct genotype they get that, and if they relate to phenotype possibilities in offspring they have that information as well.
    i understand exactly what your saying. and i think they idenitify with the term het snow cause thier more popular than anery personally i prefer anery over snow and dont really use the term het anery. last year i bred albino het anery x albino het anery and didnt produce any anery about 1/4 of the litter was snow and 3/4 albino lol thats the main reason i started saying het snow. i just did a snow x anery pairing so can i expect half snow and half anery? every time i think something is going to happen it turns out to be different i bred a pair that is double het for albino and anery and produced different results every time the last time i bred them i got 11 albinos 6 snows 3 normal looking phenotype and 1 anery the first time i got 11 albinos and the rest were normal looking

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    Re: breeding garters

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommytradix View Post
    i understand exactly what your saying. and i think they idenitify with the term het snow cause thier more popular than anery personally i prefer anery over snow and dont really use the term het anery. last year i bred albino het anery x albino het anery and didnt produce any anery about 1/4 of the litter was snow and 3/4 albino lol thats the main reason i started saying het snow. i just did a snow x anery pairing so can i expect half snow and half anery? every time i think something is going to happen it turns out to be different i bred a pair that is double het for albino and anery and produced different results every time the last time i bred them i got 11 albinos 6 snows 3 normal looking phenotype and 1 anery the first time i got 11 albinos and the rest were normal looking
    Tommy,
    Your first breeding you referenced"last year i bred albino het anery x albino het anery and didnt produce any anery about 1/4 of the litter was snow and 3/4 albino lol thats the main reason i started saying het snow.
    Your breeding in red cannot produce anerythristics, please google punnet square and learn why not.

    The second breeding you referenced"i bred a pair that is double het for albino and anery and produced different results every time the last time i bred them i got 11 albinos 6 snows 3 normal looking phenotype and 1 anery the first time i got 11 albinos and the rest were normal looking"
    The result 6 snow,11 albino, 1 anery, 3 normal is reasonable for what is the expected probability ratio is 1:1:1:1
    The results of 11 albinos and the rest (?number) is not impossible but would be suspect that the male that did the breeding was actually an albino either introduced by you or by the person that had her before you, unless you raiser her.

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