Male keeps harassing and attempting to court other males

[Albert Clark]

It's the internet, bring your thick skin please we don't need useless drama, thanks in advance.

Please Zdravko092368, do not private message me about anything else. Anything you have to type to me put it on the forum otherwise do not harass me. Thank you and your welcome!

[Albert Clark]

Welcome to the club Talon its nice to have you here. What you are experiencing is the pheromonal signature being given off by your smaller male. It's a common occurrence when males and females emerge from hibernation and the frantic search of males to find females. There are some males who give off female pheromones to throw off rival males. So, this is all normal behavior and not a lot to worry about unless you want to give the courter a "time out". Also , if you think the smaller male may be getting overly stressed from it. I think its normal behavior and the smaller guy can handle it. It's known as the "she male " garter snake fakery. Haha.

Pardon the interruption Talon, getting back to the topic. In addition to the phenomena with pheromones, male garters can also mistakenly see other males (visually) as female during these high energy , frantic times. So, once again if you feel its problematic then separate them but it truly is normal garter behavior. Good luck with them.

[Tommytradix]

well....that escalated quickly lol

[Albert Clark]

Seriously you don't need to apologize to anyone(even though it's nice that you are), you didn't mean anything and you didn't hijack the thread, Albert went off on you for literally nothing, if anyone should apologize it's Albert. People are oversensitive these days and get offended by everything for some reason and it's actually pretty annoying.

Sir , I asked you to please DO NOT PRIVATE MESSAGE ME! ARE YOU MENTALLY CHALLENGED??????

[d_virginiana]

Sir , I asked you to please DO NOT PRIVATE MESSAGE ME! ARE YOU MENTALLY CHALLENGED??????

If the content of the PMs is inappropriate, you should contact a mod about it, but considering that a mod has already commented on this thread to try and get it back on track, PMs are where any subsequent discussion about that disagreement should take place... Calling someone out for PMing you on a public thread doesn't really solve anything, since the overwhelming majority of us can't do anything about it either way, and it would be a shame if the OP (who hasn't been involved in the argument portion of the conversation in any way) had their thread locked because of it... And that is where this looks like it's headed.

[Tommytradix]

Sir , I asked you to please DO NOT PRIVATE MESSAGE ME! ARE YOU MENTALLY CHALLENGED??????

I seen the pms albert and there is no reason for name calling

[guidofatherof5]

At this point the thread should be locked in my opinion. The reason for the possible confusion by the male garter has been explained and explained very well. The rest is getting and going nowhere.

[guidofatherof5]

I received a call this evening from Steve Schmidt who provided the following link to a lot of great studies but 2 in particular that relate to the original posters question.
Item #43 and #44 are the two. Thank you Steve.
I did download both PDF files and can email them to anyone wanting them. Just PM me your email and I'll send them right out.
CURRICULUM VITAE

[guidofatherof5]

Please look through the above list as there are some older studies done on the subject. Item #4, #6, #17.

[Tommytradix]

best link ever