I just had to respond once more...you went through all that trouble to help me out, and felt good about helping me (rightly so) and I refused your help because of the arguments of old men, most of which don't know any more than the avg stiff, but pretend they do as they pretentiously wave their degrees and certificates. The reality is that these snakes look exactly the same, but are different because they have miniscule genetic differences, which are apparently big enough to qualify them as a different subspecies, but not big enough to make them a different species. In my opinion, in a lot of cases it's simply splitting hairs (cases where scale count is the same). But...even though those babies you showed me would definitely produce beautiful offspring when paired with mine, I can't do it because of a predetermined line that dictates that those are different from mine. I don't really mind them being a subspecies, they probably should. But...I do feel bad that someone was kind enough to help me, and I can't accept it over geographical semantic.lol Sorry to rant but I do honestly feel bad about the trouble you went through.