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    Juvenile snake Lumpy's Avatar
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    Re: Red Eastern project

    LOL!! More like how many weeks!

    She's my first snake. My wife and I unknowingly destroyed her hunting grounds while digging up new flower beds along our house. She found poor shelter by a corner of the house and didn't move for 2 days, so I took her in and gave her a home.

    I could count on half of one hand how many times I've seen snakes in the wild. I just never seem to see them. And your talking to a hunter who's in the woods a fair amount.

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    Re: Red Eastern project

    Damn Lump, Now I feel bad, I read all about that find in a previous post.

    I'll tell you this much, and anyone can challenge away if so compelled..

    I lost count how many snakes I have picked up over the decades, and this red trait is NOT common at all.

    Look at all the nice photos on here, then single out all the Easterns with red sides and white dorsals, how many are there??

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    Re: Red Eastern project

    Well, Zephyr is another Michigan guy and much, much more of an authority on native Michigan snakes. According to him, the red trait is very localized in the north east. But i guess not that uncommon at least in Michigan. If it is rare, I should have played the lotto the day I found my Eastern! Like I said, I've maybe seen 3 Garters in all my 44 years.

    When I was in high school and first moved to Michigan, I used to see a lot of Hognoses. They scared the hell out of me. And the only reason they were plentiful was the subdivision I lived in was new and under construction. All that clearing kicked up snakes. Hissing ones!

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    Re: Red Eastern project

    the babies could have red on them, however you might have to breed the siblings to each other to really bring out the reds. once you bring out the red color in their babies, you can then breed those to other easterns to increase the gene pool.

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    Re: Red Eastern project

    Thoe guys are what I call "pretty potter county garters"

    the more pretty specimens I find there look just like your pair wayne... what I would do is when you manage to pair the two... hold onto the babies and grow them all up a few inches so that their true colors start to show.. then you will be able to find you pick of the litter as far as coloration goes.... and then you go from there!
    Mother of many snakes and a beautiful baby girl! I am also a polymer clay artist!


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    Re: Red Eastern project

    Thanks for all the encouragement.

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    Re: Red Eastern project

    wayne nice snakes............

    shannon where do you live?
    Justin

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    Re: Red Eastern project

    Hi Shanley ,do you have any recent pictures of your orange pink eastern???

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    Re: Red Eastern project

    since i wasn't around to comment before i will now...lol, that redish side is very comming in the easterns found where i use to live in western pennsylvania, however the dorsal is not, in the 3 years that i lived there every garter had some extent of the redish side.......
    Justin

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