I watch for those expensive frames at yard sale. I don't care what's in them. At the price of glass now a days, it's a good investment. The people who are getting rid of them, just want them gone. For a couple of dollars you can pick up a frame worth $100 or more. Many of the frames I have were from frame shops. I've had one photo frame by a shop. Never again. Most of the cost is in the frame. You can take your photo or poster to them and have a matte cut for a lot less than their finished product. Do it yourself. It all looks the same in the end and you save a bunch of money. More money to expand our Thamnophis families.