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    Re: Kingsnake keepers-- a little help please???

    Congratulations! I am thrilled she ate for you. With a belly full of pinks I bet she won't be cruising the tank for a while! It's great that she is eating and I am sure that she will switch to FT in no time.

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    Re: Kingsnake keepers-- a little help please???

    Quote Originally Posted by Loren View Post
    Just to clarify- I am a guy. (I know my name could go either way, but I dont)
    Loren
    OH!!! Loren-- so sorry-- LOL-- hard to tell on emails, you know?? Yes, of course you're a guy, your emails are big, strong and manly... LOLOL

    Thanks again everyone for all the help!!! Desdemona is lying in her hide this morning postitively groaning and begging for a Tums...
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    Re: Kingsnake keepers-- a little help please???

    I'm surprised she's not plastered all over the tank after exploding...........
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    Re: Kingsnake keepers-- a little help please???

    congrats
    that is great news
    even if she's not eating what you'd loke her to - at least she's eating
    and I have no doubt that it won't be that hard to switch her to f/t
    rhea
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    Re: Kingsnake keepers-- a little help please???

    Dean, ok, I had a talk with me. LOL I committed to this snake, so therefore I am committed to feeding her what she will eat. I just didn't expect to need to BE committed after feeding her live pinks... lol!!!!!

    And I'm ok with baby animals growing up to be my meal; I raise my own meat animals. But when I eat my animals, they are killed VERY quickly and painlessly. THAT'S what gets me about this; the few times I peeked in there, those babies were struggling and gasping and THAT is what tears me up-- suffering, not death. Do you know what I mean?? And of course, I do know that nature is cruel... I just don't know why it has to be.

    But I will do whatever Desdemona needs me to do for her. I just hope her sorry little black and white butt appreciates my suffering for her. LOL
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    Re: Kingsnake keepers-- a little help please???

    Bummed!!!!

    I just walked by Desdemona's cage and she caught my eye as she was at the front, doing some strange contortions. As I watched her, she twisted around, mouth working, and then started crawling back to her hide, rubbing her face on the substrate, the hide, and the side of the tank. After she went into the hide, I looked closer around the tank and saw what I thought was poop... until I went to remove it and found she had regurged two of the pinkies. (And let me just say... pinkies 5 days later... UGH!!!!) She ate them last Saturday.

    So what's up??? She has had no stress all week... nothing has changed... the only time I even went near her tank was Sunday to refill her water and yesterday morning when I took a pic when she was moving around. The temps have remained the same.

    It's possible she regurged the third one, too, but I don't want to disturb her right now to look... I don't see it but it could be in one of the hides or under the aspen. I'll check in a little bit.

    Help... this can't be good...
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    Re: Kingsnake keepers-- a little help please???

    I wouldn't panic, Lori. There could be several reasons; too large a meal after a long fast, a sudden fright, or temperatures that are too low. You could check out the last option, but as I say, I wouldn't worry too much just yet. Try feeding her a smaller meal in a few day's time.
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    Re: Kingsnake keepers-- a little help please???

    Thanks James. The temps go down to the mid 70's at night in her tank. During the day, the cool part stays at about 75 and the basking spot is about 80-82 (I did lower it from 85-90). That's ok, right?

    I will peek around for the last pinky. Maybe three was just too much. If the one stayed down, I'll feel better...

    I would really really like to not experience 5 day old half digested baby mice again. That was uniquely unpleasant. lol
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    Re: Kingsnake keepers-- a little help please???

    Quote Originally Posted by Lori P View Post
    I would really really like to not experience 5 day old half digested baby mice again.
    I know! It's awful!
    If I were you I think i might be tempted to bump the hot-spot temperature back up, Lori, as long as Desdemona can get away to a cooler area if she wants to.
    James.

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    Re: Kingsnake keepers-- a little help please???

    Hi Lori, I would guess it was just alittle too much for her little system to handle at once. I would wait a good week to 10 days before trying to feed her again. Regurging upsets their stomach/throat a bit, so she needs a little time off. Then just give one at a time. I wouldnt worry too much.
    Would hurt to bump up to 85 degrees or so basking temp.

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