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    Re: Stefan's garters

    Hahaha, funny. Oh well, you got Wayne now.

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    Re: Stefan's garters

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    Hahaha, funny. Oh well, you got Wayne now.
    Not one part of what I said was intended as a joke.

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    Re: Stefan's garters

    It was still funny

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    Re: Stefan's garters

    Speaking of funny.



    October 7, 2012.


    This is a rough translation and summary of the necropsy report I got this morning. Took a lot longer than expected to get it.

    Result:
    1. Extreme anemia.
    2. Fatal internal bleeding.

    Specific findings:
    -The snake is severely anemic and was severely anemic before the internal bleeding.
    -Mucous membranes in the mouth extremely white.
    -Large amounts of bloody fluids in the body cavity. 3 cm long blood clot along the oviduct.
    -Bloody fluids in the membrane around the oviduct and the intestines.
    -The liver is pale, some minor hematomas. Multifocal necrosis. The histological changes probably caused by lack of oxygen.
    -No signs of infection.
    -No changes in lungs, heart, brains or kidneys.
    Now all that remains is to find a cause for the cause of death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    Now all that remains is to find a cause for the cause of death.
    My guess is that "fatal internal bleeding" would cause death.

    But I wonder what caused the anemia.

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    Re: Stefan's garters

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    My guess is that "fatal internal bleeding" would cause death.
    The cause of death is not the same thing as the cause of the cause of death.

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    Re: Stefan's garters

    Glad you finally got the results back but it looks like it's only raised more question. At least those questions are more focused now.
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    Re: Stefan's garters

    Www. What a shame.
    maybe something went wrong w follicle development?

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    Re: Stefan's garters

    Quote Originally Posted by Selkielass View Post
    Www. What a shame.
    maybe something went wrong w follicle development?
    My thinking right now, is that it is related to this problem from 2010:

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    A couple of pictures from July.





    The pictures were taken by the vet. I stole them from their facebook page.

    The vet had mentioned a constriction around the oviduct back then. She's thrown slugs twice since then without any visible problems, but I guess that second time did some damage she couldn't recover from. I want to emphasize that this is just a guess.

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    Re: Stefan's garters

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan-A View Post
    My thinking right now, is that it is related to this problem from 2010:




    The vet had mentioned a constriction around the oviduct back then. She's thrown slugs twice since then without any visible problems, but I guess that second time did some damage she couldn't recover from. I want to emphasize that this is just a guess.
    I'd say that's a logical conclusion. It's a shame mate.
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