NYS regulations?

[count dewclaw]

Chris Ray also added a note, saying that all native NY reptiles are protected as "game species", but most don't have set seasons
that makes it really clear then, right?

That is what had me confused when I was looking at the DEC website. They were listed as "game" with no open season...so I was wondering if that meant "no take" or "unlimited take"? That is why I emailed them (it took over a month to get an answer btw!).

[Snake lover 3-25]

this is what i found.... but if you read it lists the species and says
""Definition." For purposes of this section, "native turtles" shall mean all life stages, including eggs, of the following species"
but it never completes the sentence?????
it also does this with all of the other sections in reptiles and amphibians.....

Part 2, Section 2.2 - Frogs and Part 3 - Reptiles - Express Terms

Express Terms

Part 2 of Title 6 NYCRR is amended as follows:
Section 2.2, "Taking of frogs," is repealed.
Part 3 of Title 6 NYCRR is amended as follows:
Part 3 is renamed to read as follows:
"Reptiles and Amphibians"
Section 3.1, "Protection of diamondback terrapin," is renamed to read as follows:
Section 3.1 [Protection of diamondback] Diamondback terrapins.
A new section 3.2, "Native turtles," is added to read as follows:
3.2 Native turtles.
(a) "Definition." For purposes of this section, "native turtles" shall mean all life stages, including eggs, of the following species: snapping turtle, common musk turtle, eastern mud turtle, spotted turtle, bog or Muhlenberg's turtle, wood turtle, eastern box turtle, common map turtle, painted turtle, Blanding's turtle, green sea turtle, Atlantic hawksbill sea turtle, loggerhead sea turtle, Atlantic or Kemp's ridley sea turtle, leatherback sea turtle, and eastern spiny softshell turtle.
(b) Snapping turtles.
(1) "Open season." July 15 to September 30.
(2) "Size limit." Minimum length: 12 inches. No person shall harvest, take or possess a snapping turtle with an upper shell (carapace) that measures, using a straight line, less than twelve inches in length.
(3) "Bag limit." Daily limit: 5. Seasonal limit: 30.
(4) "Hunting hours." Snapping turtles may be hunted at any time.
(c) All other native turtles.
(1) "Open season." None.
A new section 3.3, "Native snakes," is added to read as follows:
3.3 Native snakes.
(a) "Definitions." For purposes of this section, "native snakes" shall mean all life stages, including eggs, of the following species: northern water snake, queen snake, northern brown snake, northern redbelly snake, common garter snake, shorthead garter snake, ribbon snake, eastern hognose snake, northern ringneck snake, eastern worm snake, northern black racer, smooth green snake, black rat snake, eastern milk snake, northern copperhead, eastern massasauga, and timber rattlesnake.
(b) "Open season." None.

[drache]

no open season for snakes then
I notice I'm a little unhappy about this

[count dewclaw]

I notice I'm a little unhappy about this

I'm more than a little unhappy! I found some gorgeous snakes!

[bulrush]

In Michigan, the eastern garter is unprotected, but you also cannot sell them. Otherwise everyone would be out there catching them and selling them. I have a question in to the Michigan DNR asking them if I could catch a snake, but sell the babies. No reply yet, it's been about 5 days.

Game regulations say you can have up to 6 garters in your possession "for personal use", whatever that means. For commercial use you need a license. I assume they don't want you to take too many from the wild and sell them. I just wanted one for a pet.

[Zephyr]

In Michigan, the eastern garter is unprotected, but you also cannot sell them. Otherwise everyone would be out there catching them and selling them. I have a question in to the Michigan DNR asking them if I could catch a snake, but sell the babies. No reply yet, it's been about 5 days.

Game regulations say you can have up to 6 garters in your possession "for personal use", whatever that means. For commercial use you need a license. I assume they don't want you to take too many from the wild and sell them. I just wanted one for a pet.

Ah, but if you read what it says, you're allowed a COLLECTION limit of 6. Meaning you can only TAKE 6 garters from the wild. There are no limits on possession. ;D
It also does not say that you can't sell CB babies.

[salzar]

okay maybe im just a sneeky kinda gal. but who is going to find out, OH I released the snakes,,,
ohhh the big bad DEC will stick there big fat nose in my home and raid it for small non agressive non poisonus snakes.. please...
the DEC is lame. BETTER TO ASK FORGIVENESS THAT PERMISION...
please do not listen to the ramblings of a non leagl person who might get in trouble from the BIG BAD DEC...
HEEEE HAAAAAAA just joking gosh knows we never do anything illigal..
just take good care of wonderful small colourful snakes that we love to death!
how horid of me!!

[count dewclaw]

okay maybe im just a sneeky kinda gal. but who is going to find out, OH I released the snakes,,,
ohhh the big bad DEC will stick there big fat nose in my home and raid it for small non agressive non poisonus snakes.. please...
the DEC is lame. BETTER TO ASK FORGIVENESS THAT PERMISION...
please do not listen to the ramblings of a non leagl person who might get in trouble from the BIG BAD DEC...
HEEEE HAAAAAAA just joking gosh knows we never do anything illigal..
just take good care of wonderful small colourful snakes that we love to death!
how horid of me!!

Do with it as you will. I had asked the question, so I thought I would share the answer. For some of us there is more at stake than just whether or not the DEC will raid our home...I have children that I would like to raise to be honest people, they are watching my example...

[anji1971]

Do with it as you will. I had asked the question, so I thought I would share the answer. For some of us there is more at stake than just whether or not the DEC will raid our home...I have children that I would like to raise to be honest people, they are watching my example...

Which is a very important reason!! That's ultimately what made me decide to release Twister. I want my kids to grow up understanding the value of the environment and endangered species. And they need to learn that following your values isn't always easy.

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol i agree totally!!!!....... i hope that they dont read this....