outdoor

[charles parenteau]

this is amazing what a nice outdoor vivarium!!THat give me a lot of good ideas!!tanks for sharing my friend!!

[zooplan]

We have permanent frost.

no weeding is possible

both ponds are frozen. Hope the snakes are deep in the den.

[adamanteus]

Martin has a book out about these? I would like to see it.

[zooplan]

This is all I could find about it so far
Muster
but there is an article about it on
EGSA.de - European Garter Snake Association too
and on the HP of Jan Sonnenberg
www.sirtalis.de - Thamnophen im Terrarium - Startseite

[Lori P]

ROFL-- Udo, too funny!!!

James, get Molly on your side... who could resist those eyes??!!

[zooplan]

The sun is burning
25 ° C and no shadow arround
I try to work on the enclosure
First I have to shovel a lot of soil away,
because I have to make the place mice proof!

[Stefan-A]

First I have to shovel a lot of soil away,
because I have to make the place mice proof!

Isn't that what the snakes are for?

[adamanteus]

Will you use steel mesh under the ground to keep the mice from tunnelling in? That's what I had in mind.

[zooplan]

Will you use steel mesh under the ground to keep the mice from tunnelling in? That's what I had in mind.

yes, wild mice are vrey dagerous for such little snakes especially during hibernation.
and on the other hand mice holes are excellent escape tracks

[adamanteus]

Yes, it was the escape holes I was concerned about. Another way to get around this would be to provide a deep base of stone hardcore under the subsrate.... mice could not burrow through this and it would also provide excellent drainage in case of heavy rain.