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    Re: Legitimate release/repopulation programs

    Quote Originally Posted by mtolypetsupply View Post
    Actually, about the tetrataenia, the last study I read said they were looking for MORE captive breeding projects, and released populations.
    "At present it does not appear necessary to captively propagate SFGS to enhance or increase the number of populations." p. 47
    http://ecos.fws.gov/docs/recovery_plan/850911.pdf

    Granted, it was 2½ decades ago.

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    Re: Legitimate release/repopulation programs

    Quote Originally Posted by mtolypetsupply View Post
    In our area, we have had coyote reintroduction programs, raccoon capture/vaccinate/release programs, fish reintroduction/stocking, not to mention the other programs across the country, such as the reintroduction of wolves into Yellowstone. Bison were endangered, and are now so plentiful they are a food source, because of captive breeding efforts. And integrated pest management is all about introducing living things that are beneficial to the environment into locales where they did not exist before, or did not exist in as plentiful numbers to create the desired impact.
    Something that has been touched on but not explained is why the Reintroduction plans that you have stated have been successful is the reason they were taken away in the first place. *Note, not all reintroduction programs have been a success, some have devastating results, such as is the case in many of the fish introductions here in the West.

    Bison, Wolves, Coyotes, and even the American Aligator were all put in jeopardy by over hunting, not by habitat loss. Leaving plenty of natural range for these animals to expand and grow naturally to previous numbers after a bit of a jump start from us. In the case of habitat loss there is much less we can do to help jumpstart the process because there is no natural land to exand. The example I will show with that is the American Crocodile. They will never reach the numbers they were previous or any where near the numbers of Gators because they have no where to go. There has been many of the same reintroduction programs with the Crocs and Gators, so why has one been so much more successful than the other? Again it is the reason for the numbers declining in the first place.

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    Re: Legitimate release/repopulation programs

    lol i wish they had that here..... the population im my area has gone down alot since recent housing developments have started....
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    Re: Legitimate release/repopulation programs

    Link to original plan:

    http://ecos.fws.gov/docs/recovery_plan/850911.pdf

    Looking for subesquent reveiws

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    Re: Legitimate release/repopulation programs

    Quote Originally Posted by mtolypetsupply View Post
    Link to original plan:

    http://ecos.fws.gov/docs/recovery_plan/850911.pdf

    Looking for subesquent reveiws
    http://www.fws.gov/cno/es/San%20Fran...view.FINAL.pdf

    Recommendations for future actions:
    - Development of an updated recovery plan and an expanded San Francisco garter snake working group
    - Encourage conservation among private landowners
    - Continue ongoing habitat restoration and enhancement for wild populations
    - Complete captive holding facilities for use in head starting programs, the restoration of world-wide zoo populations, and as temporary lodging during habitat maintenance
    - Increase research of population trends, demography, and phylogenetics
    - Increase law enforcement at vulnerable locations

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    Re: Legitimate release/repopulation programs

    Of course, Rossman advocates the elimination of tetrateania as a distinct sub-species.
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    Re: Legitimate release/repopulation programs

    I think we're wandering away from the point a bit. The reintroduction of CB Garter Snakes is illegal and counter-productive, let's not do it or advocate it, guys.
    James.

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    Re: Legitimate release/repopulation programs

    I am pretty sure they released a bunch of captive eastern indigos in florida.It was like 15 years ago.I am pretty sure all turned up dead or never found again.

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    Re: Legitimate release/repopulation programs

    'nuff said.

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    Re: Legitimate release/repopulation programs

    We had another thread on this a couple of months ago.

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