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    Re: How the heck do you sex babies?

    Quote Originally Posted by GartersRock View Post
    If you can't get a confirmed baby male to pop then you either aren't doing it right or it's a female.
    I do not believe that one bit. I've watched a guy pop one male after the other successfully, and then get a male that just wouldn't pop at all.

    As a matter of fact, I highly suspect that my Amy is a male and Don says he pops the babies. Maybe this one wouldn't pop. When I hold her up to bright light I can see that there is something in that region of the tail. I mean, look at this:



    I know it's hard because she flat refused to cooperate but every visual indication now that she's grown up some more, indicates male. The tail stays the same size for some distance after the vent. From above you can actually see a very slight bulge after the vent. I'd bet money "she" is a he.

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    Re: How the heck do you sex babies?

    Oh and when I speak of scale counting and probing I am mostly talking other species. Adult garters I find visual to be completely accurate.
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    Re: How the heck do you sex babies?

    Now I know absolutely NOTHING on accurately sexing snakes. But from my experience, it seems to be its own science. I trust people more experienced than me to do the sexing. I know I bought a sand boa as a 2 yr old from a lovely older couple who have been working with snakes for years. They assured me it was female. I believed them, especially as the snake in question kept growing and growing and sand boa females are known to be much heftier than males. But Dr. Feinsod probed the boa as male. Shocked the H*** outta me! I SOOO wanted my first breeding experience to be with this one individual snake. She/He was and still is, my favorite sand boa. But now I'm gonna have to save my pennies for a REAL female. Do I think the couple that sold me this snake misrepresented the boa? No. It was just a simple mistake and I would be more than happy to buy from them again.

    I just want Dr. Feinsod to be with me when I find a female!

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    Re: How the heck do you sex babies?

    Quote Originally Posted by GartersRock View Post
    If you can't get a confirmed baby male to pop then you either aren't doing it right or it's a female.
    Well, I was talking about adults. Some of those guys just won't pop even though I know they are male by watching them breed. It happened to redspot a few days ago too. Adult male just wouldn't pop. But this discussion is about babies anyway. They pop easily.


    Quote Originally Posted by GartersRock View Post
    But seriously you gotta stop saying that visual is 100% accurate and there is no need to pop ever. Because I am constantly seeing people make more mistakes when they don't do it.
    I never said that. I just said that visual and/or scale counting has always worked for me, and mainly I'm talking only with concinnus and the reason I know it works for me is that they were always confirmed by popping, probing, or actual breeding. And of course, there's always a baby or two that you're just not sure of and they cannot be sexed visually.

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    Re: How the heck do you sex babies?

    I've been 100% accurate on selling a LOT of baby snakes. Right off the bat I visually sex them with I'd guess a 99% accuracy rating. I then pop them with a 80% accuracy conformation, then I probe them to make sure I have my bases totally covered.

    If you plan on selling snakes it's as much your responsibility to accurately sex them as it is to have them feeding, arriving safe and in good health.

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    Re: How the heck do you sex babies?

    I'm not having much luck popping my babies. I can pop baby corns, but it's not working well with these garter babies. There's no way I got ALL females! LOL!

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    Re: How the heck do you sex babies?

    Quote Originally Posted by mtolypetsupply View Post
    I'm not having much luck popping my babies. I can pop baby corns, but it's not working well with these garter babies. There's no way I got ALL females! LOL!

    Any tips?
    Stephi, bring the babies to the hamburg show on august 7th and I will be glad to pop them for you and help you get a handle on how to do it!
    Mother of many snakes and a beautiful baby girl! I am also a polymer clay artist!


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    Re: How the heck do you sex babies?

    keep practicing! youll get it, try on a known male first, bend... sqeeze

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    Re: How the heck do you sex babies?

    BACK TO MY MAIN QUESTION.. How do you not crush the babies when trying to sex? gentle hands or not!

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    Re: How the heck do you sex babies?

    I think somebody would have to post a video. It's something you have to see.

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