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[ConcinusMan]

Are you talking about white river in Indiana? I wouldn't touch anything out of that river, let alone eat it or feed it to my snakes.

[Starling96]

No in arkansas and Missouri
some of it is a wild life preserve pr something lol
it's a pretty clean river

[ConcinusMan]

Well it sounds like your fish would make an excellent staple, especially if you make fish jello from it and ad reptile vitamins to it. I'm not sure where to find the recipe but I'm sure other members reading this know where to find it. Anyone? I know Shannon knows how to make it.

[Starling96]

Yea
Ive seen the recipe I'll probably pm her though
And do ribbons to better in a pair or a trio???

[kibakiba]

It depends on the snake. They are like people when it comes to this, some seem to do better in large groups, some like to be in smaller groups, some like to have just one extra snake in with them and some prefer to be completely alone.

[ConcinusMan]

Garters and ribbons are solitary by nature unless it's brumating or mating time. They don't really need company. It's up to you if you want to keep them in groups. They do just fine either way.

[guidofatherof5]

Garters and ribbons are solitary by nature unless it's brumating or mating time. They don't really need company. It's up to you if you want to keep them in groups. They do just fine either way.

I can't speak for ribbon snakes but when it comes to T.radix and T.s. parietalis I would disagree with your "solitary by nature" statement.
I very rarely fine a radix or parietalis alone when I'm out herping.
2 or more is usually what I find under hide.
My large enclosure with multiple hides are a prime example of them grouping together.
I personally think they are more relaxed and calm when housed together.
Just my opinion.

[RedSidedSPR]

I personally think they are more relaxed and calm when housed together.
Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]

I do too. I am going to buy another baby to put in with this onw for that reason. They feel more secure... not as jumpy as they are when they're alone in a big tank...

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

I can't speak for ribbon snakes but when it comes to T.radix and T.s. parietalis I would disagree with your "solitary by nature" statement.
I very rarely fine a radix or parietalis alone when I'm out herping.
2 or more is usually what I find under hide.
My large enclosure with multiple hides are a prime example of them grouping together.
I personally think they are more relaxed and calm when housed together.
Just my opinion.

I agree entirely with your disagreement. I always find wild garters together... garters that have no reason to be together as they are not mating.

[RedSidedSPR]

I have never (EVER) found more than one snake under something. I have the worst luck herping. And I'm herping ALL DAY. I usually go home finding, oh, idk, one snake. Usually none. Let alone two at a time. That is unimaginable.