Hypo/Pastel Checkered gave birth today-ironically

[Jeff B]

You know Brad the other possibility is that these are actually suttle visual hets of a recessive gene that shows the full visual phenotype in the homozygous form which would be what you produced this year. Food for thought, there are some recessive genes that show themselves slightly in the heterozygous animals in other snake species, this is well acknowledged. Either way im keeping that normal as a control and breed it as well for more data to add to solving the puzzle.

[RedSidedSPR]

nice, congrats

[ConcinusMan]

They look normal to me. Including mom. But whatever. Good looking set of granite hets.

[Jeff B]

Actually Richard it's really looking like 2 hypo/pastels and 1 normal. Now that they are feeding it's pretty obvious that the 2 are quite a bit brighter/lighter background than the one and there dorsals are bright yellow, whereas the one is more orangish yellow and the background color is a darker olive color compared to the other two. I will post a group pic after they all have there second shed and have enough size to show their true colors.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

the first shed tells it all

[BUSHSNAKE]

pics Jeff!

[ConcinusMan]

Pics are already there Joe. Post #1.

[Jeff B]

Like I said 2 pastels and one normal.
Now that these babies have shed and put a little size on at 3 weeks old it is pretty obvious that 2 are Brad Chambers line pastels and one normal. All of these babies are het for the granite gene as well as the sire was a granite visual. Likely Brad proved either that this pastel line has a super form or a new recessive gene, either way the dame of these babies was a littermate to that breeding.

[RdubSnider]

There looking really good jeff

[BChambers]

Jeff, I'm forced, kicking and screaming, to be dragged back to the view that there is indeed a "Super" form to this gene. I can't think of any other explanation that is nearly as likely.