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    Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question

    Quote Originally Posted by amattel View Post
    I have a male who has just gone off feeding.. can I keep him safely over winter at reduced temps but not full blown brumation?

    Perhaps just removing the heat lamp so temps would range from upper 60's to low 70's in the room?

    What is the max temperature for actual brumation?
    I don't have quite as much experience here as most, but last winter, I cooled their temperatures a little bit, and fed them, but less frequently (they had less of an appetite anyway). I always made sure to give them a coupe hours of heat per day in order to digest properly, but I also let their temperature dip into the 50's from time to time. It seemed to work fine.

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    Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question

    this will be my first year doing a real burmation with garter snakes. and just wanted to know for sure. everything i have been reading. said not to feed and give them 2 to 3 weeks of no food before you cool them all the way down. so the have a chance to get cleaned out good. but saw a vid on YouTube were someone was feeding during and it had me wondering.

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    Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question

    If they are feeding during brumation then it must not be a true cold temp. brumation.(at least I hope not)
    To feed a snake during cold brumation would kill them.
    Now, some people simply cool there snakes down rather then using cold temps.
    No or little food, no heat and very little to no light.

    Steve
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    "Preparing For First shed"
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    Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question

    Is just leaving the heating in the tank on enough to keep them from brumation? I don't want my snake to accidentally start hibernating.

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    T. radix Ranch guidofatherof5's Avatar
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    Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question

    Accidently? They are going to do what they want to do no matter what you do.
    If they can't do a full brumtion then they will simply stop eating and move to the coolest part of their home.
    It's out of your control for the most part.
    Many times I have snake go off food. There's is nothing I can do about it but wait until they decide to eat again.
    What part of the country are you in? This has a lot to do with how they are going to brumate.
    Steve
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    Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question

    Very true, I'm in NC, and my snakes don't get any sort of special heating. I've never had one brumate even at winter room temps, and he usually only slows down a little bit with food.
    Lora

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    "Preparing For First shed"
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    Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question

    I live in New York City, my snake is still moving and ate three days ago. I'm hoping she doesn't brumate on her own, but I guess anything can happen. She has been sitting in a weird corner near her water bowl, but I'm thinking this might indicate she may shed soon. She has moved on her own though, into her cubby and out again.

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    Re: to feed or not to feed that is the question

    As long as you don't lower the temperature she won't go into a proper cold brumation, she may slow down and be less active though. They know not to brumate with food inside, which is why they often go off their food at this time of year, however lowering the temperature would force her to brumate, which would be a bad thing to do after she's eaten recently.
    They like odd corners and places. And remember garters are semi-aquatic, so spending lots of time in a water bowl is quite normal. If you think she's due to shed keep the humidity above 50%, it's a good idea to put moist moss in the cold hide.
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