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    Re: Accidental Cross Breeding

    Quote Originally Posted by AntTheDestroyer View Post
    I am curious what they look like. Do you have any idea what species the father was?
    He father was T. sirtalis. They are the only garters native to my area, and I tried to upload pictures, but I haven't been able to figure it out yet.

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    Re: Accidental Cross Breeding

    here are a couple of pictures
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    Re: Accidental Cross Breeding

    They do look fairly normal, I have never kept this species so not sure, but it would be reason enough to prove that in the hands of anyone that did not know they were/are a hybrid how easily they could be breed. On a different train of thought, right now they are a mix 50/50, if these scrubs were breed to checkerds and then this offspring breed again, and again. Would the other species eventually be breed out? Or would there always be a trace, all be it small.

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    Re: Accidental Cross Breeding

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan72 View Post
    They do look fairly normal, I have never kept this species so not sure, but it would be reason enough to prove that in the hands of anyone that did not know they were/are a hybrid how easily they could be breed. On a different train of thought, right now they are a mix 50/50, if these scrubs were breed to checkerds and then this offspring breed again, and again. Would the other species eventually be breed out? Or would there always be a trace, all be it small.
    That's an interesting question.

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    Re: Accidental Cross Breeding

    liveunderoath where are you located? asking incase anyone lives near you that may have snakes that eat other snakes or know ppl that can make them just pets.
    Ashley: instagram-> @ashes1187

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    Re: Accidental Cross Breeding

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    liveunderoath where are you located? asking incase anyone lives near you that may have snakes that eat other snakes or know ppl that can make them just pets.
    Tennessee

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    Re: Accidental Cross Breeding

    That's a bunch of homes to find, but more power to you if you can and do the leg work on that.

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    Re: Accidental Cross Breeding

    They look like Checkered Garter Snakes to me. Is it possible that your female locked up with your male checkered before the introduction of the T.sirtalis male? If so, it is improbable but possible that the clutch didn't produce any amelanistic animals (go buy a lotto ticket). It is also possible and more likely that your female is not heterozygous for amelanism. Is there a lot of variation in the clutch of 28 or do they all look like the two in the pictures? Either way, like everyone else said, it is probably better not to distribute them or release them if you cannot be certain of their lineage. It's too bad because they look like pretty little checkered garter snakes to me.

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    Re: Accidental Cross Breeding

    Quote Originally Posted by stnick View Post
    They look like Checkered Garter Snakes to me. Is it possible that your female locked up with your male checkered before the introduction of the T.sirtalis male? If so, it is improbable but possible that the clutch didn't produce any amelanistic animals (go buy a lotto ticket). It is also possible and more likely that your female is not heterozygous for amelanism. Is there a lot of variation in the clutch of 28 or do they all look like the two in the pictures? Either way, like everyone else said, it is probably better not to distribute them or release them if you cannot be certain of their lineage. It's too bad because they look like pretty little checkered garter snakes to me.
    I've never seen them lock up as long as I've had them, but within a few hours the t. sirtalis locked up with her.

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