My Heart Beat Theory

[Stefan-A]

See, James. That's just it. I'm getting these guys as pets to play with, watch, enjoy, etc.

They are indeed great to watch and enjoy, but don't try to play with them.

[Lori P]

Gertie, you are after my own heart. One of the things I had to realize about my snakes is that as much as I looooooooove them, they don't really looooooooove me. They have come to accept me as part of their environment and seem to do best, overall, when handled less and simply provided with the very best environment I can give them.

I have come to understand, too, that snakes are most secure when they have plenty of small, size-appropriate hiding places. But I've never come to believe that keeping them in tiny tanks is the answer... rather, in my opinion, providing them with a multitude of different types of hides (from thick greenery to actual hides of different size and textures, to branches and other climbs) in a large enclosure still gives them their feelings of security while allowing them to move, explore, and excercise. If they want to hide, they can; if they want to creep around under the greenery, they can.

Of course, the more detailed the tank, the harder to clean. Or at least, the more time consuming it becomes.

I do see merit in your heartbeat-as-a-soother theory. Altho I think perhaps, a mother snake's heartbeat would sound different from a human's... what's the normal bpm for a snake????

And trust me, if your puglets are anything like my puglets, there'd be no bed sharing... they'd keep us all up all night snuffling the snakes non stop. lol

[Snake lover 3-25]

wow i missed alot.... okay... so what i ment was that i hold them around my neck all the time and that your neck has a pulse too so you may be on to something....

but i agree with the others on the whole sleeping and leash thing.... i just let mine go around my yard and make sure that they don't get too close to the road or the porch....2/3 are wc so they enjoy being outside...... i take the turtle out too... esp when it's raining!!! but i've personally made a leash for an adult turtle and taken it down to the creak for a swim...... but it's basically imposible to do that for a snake... without injuring it....

[infernalis]

We keep our animals in the largest possible enclosure I can come up with.

My friend Suzanne built a huge glass sun room for her Iguanas

I like woodworking, and have a good supplier of safety glass panels, so I build a box with glass on the front, and a locking cover.

I will take some pictures from further back, so you can see.

Here is one I took today, She is getting plump

Not so much time right now, but I will agree, KS is a forum mostly dominated by breeders, and they tend to get a little snotty.

I will NEVER house an animal in a sweater box with old newspapers on the floor.

Regards,
Wayne

[GartersRock]

Wayne, what do you think of the way Scott Felzer house's his garters?

[adamanteus]

Did your 'herpetologist' friend tell you this on April 1st? It gives a whole new meaning to 'anything with a heartbeat'!

[jeanette]

Did your 'herpetologist' friend tell you this on April 1st? It gives a whole new meaning to 'anything with a heartbeat'!

im afraid not

[adamanteus]

I'm dumbfounded. All I can really add is a quote from myself on another thread.

"I really can't argue on this any more. It's such utter nonsense that I'm actually embarrassed to be discussing it!"

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol well then you don't have to!!!!!!

I'm dumbfounded. All I can really add is a quote from myself on another thread.

"I really can't argue on this any more. It's such utter nonsense that I'm actually embarrassed to be discussing it!"

[Stefan-A]

lol well then you don't have to!!!!!!

I think it is nice to hear a voice of reason every now and then.