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    Re: Routine and preferences?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven@HumboldtHerps View Post
    I thought I had mentioned low frequency vibrations picked up via the scales, lung, and vestigial inner ear bones in my previous post.....

    Steve
    I totally missed that. Where can I find this info to print out so I can learn it an use in our presentation. This is more in depth than we've ever gone and it will bring some newness and freshness to the presentation. Not to mention it should rock the socks of evreyone.

    VESTIGIAL INNER EAR BONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!! Holy smokes! And so they gradually lost their ears/ear holes since their body was closer to ground and other things could take over for the ears!!!!!!!

    I GOT IT!!! SO FACINATING!!!! I LOVE IT! (This is easier to get than the eye-thingy.)
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    Oh my gods, Rhea. I understand. How much does one of those tuning forks cost, do you know? And do you know how I go about getting one? That would add SO MUCH to our snake program! I'm so glad you mentioned that. FANTASTIC! I could just hug you to death! The kids and parents (and even me...) have blank looks on their faces because they can't get how one can "hear" from vibrations, especially in a jaw bone and not through an ear.

    But hearing IS only about vibrations of air waves, isn't it?! I'm thinking their jaw bone is like our hammer/anvil/sturrip? That bone is needed to process the sound waves? Is that it?

    THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Routine and preferences?

    back in my med student days one had to get them through medical supply houses, but we're now in the 21st century and we have the people who sell everything
    Amazon.com: medical tuning fork
    you need to get one of the ones with those little barrels at the ends
    I like the range of the C128hz - it's easy for anyone to "hear"
    rhea
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    Re: Routine and preferences?

    Quote Originally Posted by drache View Post
    back in my med student days one had to get them through medical supply houses, but we're now in the 21st century and we have the people who sell everything
    Amazon.com: medical tuning fork
    you need to get one of the ones with those little barrels at the ends
    I like the range of the C128hz - it's easy for anyone to "hear"
    You are a doll! Thanks!
    2.0 NY Eastern Garters; Peepers, Jeepers
    3.1 Western Hoggies; Kenabec, Niizh, Kokopelli, Anasazi
    3.0 Puget Garters; Kunikpok, Tungortok, 'Rockster
    1.0 Eastern Milk; Carmello

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    Re: Routine and preferences?

    If I recall correctly, sound travels better through solids than through gases... I guess it's hard for us to think how many other animals use their senses when we're considerably limited. XD
    But if you think about it... We have a sucky sense of smell, but we function like a normal organism. XD I guess it's just business as usual for them. :P
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    Re: Routine and preferences?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr View Post
    If I recall correctly, sound travels better through solids than through gases... I guess it's hard for us to think how many other animals use their senses when we're considerably limited. XD
    But if you think about it... We have a sucky sense of smell, but we function like a normal organism. XD I guess it's just business as usual for them. :P
    You recall correctly.

    Our sense of smell is severely underestimated. Of course it's nowhere near as good as a dog's for example, but it's not that bad. Our vision isn't the best either, but it's pretty good for a mammal and it's certainly better than snakes'.

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    Re: Routine and preferences?

    Now please don't ask me where I got this one from (because I don't remember... maybe someone can verify): I saw on some documentary that the evolution of primate vision can indirectly give thanks to snakes. Primate vision obviously isn't the greatest (as mentioned), but it is unique nonetheless in areas of depth perception. Had we, while swinging in the trees, not passed on the visual capability of spotting dangerous serpents in the trees (you need good depth perception to spot a green mamba or boomslang!), there might have been less of us around to have prospered as a species. Just a thought...

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    Re: Routine and preferences?

    Our ability to "automatically" analyze visual information is pretty good, primarily thanks to snakes. We seem to be pretty good at finding repeating patterns, including the patterns snakes have.

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    Re: Routine and preferences?

    Oh! I remember hearing that too! Yay snakes for giving us teh visionz!
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    Hoping to get some T. s. sirtalis High-Reds next summer!


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