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    Re: New guy

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    Of course I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that they are sharing the best basking, hunting, and hiding spots. I really don't think they come together for the company.
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    I have never (EVER) found more than one snake under something. I have the worst luck herping. And I'm herping ALL DAY. I usually go home finding, oh, idk, one snake. Usually none. Let alone two at a time. That is unimaginable.

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    All of my snakes like to share one spot, and that isn't a basking spot, since I dont put the basking lamps on while its over the 70s.All of them, including Snap, lay together.

    My babies did the cutest thing ever the other day... About 3 of them, Silver, Specks and Spots were all facing each other in a circle and they were looking at each other, one would flick their tongue at the one next to them, then one would flick their tongue at the other. It looked like they were talking. Of course, there's always one who likes to interrupt everyone or try to join in. That one would be Dots. He came slithering over them flicking his tongue like crazy... they the all slithered away. Haha. I can imagine Dots being the geeky kid trying to fit in at school or something and going "hey! Hey guys! GUYS! Wanna come over to my house and watch Star wars? Maybe some Star Trek too?!"
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    All the snakes I've kept (not many, mind you) have tended to cuddle up in the same hide, even when I've put multiple hides in the enclosure. When I kept three that one summer, all three of them frequently shared the same hide.

    Also, that one year that stampede of garters came through our yard, I could swear they were bunching up together and following a "leader", not like they all just happened to be going the same way, but like they were deliberately traveling together.
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    Re: New guy

    Quote Originally Posted by Didymus20X6 View Post
    Also, that one year that stampede of garters came through our yard, I could swear they were bunching up together and following a "leader", not like they all just happened to be going the same way, but like they were deliberately traveling together.
    Yeah, the leader a receptive female, the followers, horny males. Nothing unusual about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Didymus20X6 View Post
    All the snakes I've kept (not many, mind you) have tended to cuddle up in the same hide, even when I've put multiple hides in the enclosure. When I kept three that one summer, all three of them frequently shared the same hide.
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    Re: New guy

    Steve, my snakes seem to enjoy company too, so I keep them in pairs or groups, not all alone. Other than for disease spread prevention, I don't see a real need for isolation so far.

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    Then why does Snakey immediately refuse food when he's alone, and start eating right when I place someone in with him? He started eating so much better when I got Mama and put them together.

    And perhaps, for me, since I have no friends I tend to anthropomorphise them because they are truly my only real friends.
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    Re: New guy

    Quote Originally Posted by kibakiba View Post
    Then why does Snakey immediately refuse food when he's alone, and start eating right when I place someone in with him? He started eating so much better when I got Mama and put them together.
    Competition. If you want to anthropomorphise anything, then that's it. Competitive nature. We have it. Maybe they do too. Or else it could again boil down to security. Feeding activity makes a snake vulnerable at that moment. The moment when they are eating. No snake is in the mood to eat when it feels unsafe. Having other snakes around makes them feel safer.

    Quote Originally Posted by kibakiba View Post
    And perhaps, for me, since I have no friends I tend to anthropomorphise them because they are truly my only real friends.
    And I would have to come right out and say you are wrong. You do have friends. Human friends. Don't let that rain storm that is following you around, cloud your vision Chantel. Been there, done that. I understand more than you know. What you're feeling now is not real. The feeling that you are alone and have no friends is an illusion. Don't let the the rain cloud above your head beat you. It's lying to you in attempt to beat you into submission. You're stronger than that. It will get better. The sun will come out and you'll see things much clearer. The cloud is a lie. The sun is shining brightly. You just can't see it because the cloud is over your head.

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    Re: New guy

    I have online friends, I consider a lot of people on here and people on games to be true friends, but in a physical sense, I don't have anyone to talk to, or to hug if I feel down. That is why I anthropomorphise, I can talk to Mama and believe she listens to me, I can hug her and I can bring her into my room and lay with her, and usually, she'll stay right on my chest or on my pillow.
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    Re: New guy

    Quote Originally Posted by kibakiba View Post
    I have online friends, I consider a lot of people on here and people on games to be true friends, but in a physical sense, I don't have anyone to talk to, or to hug if I feel down. That is why I anthropomorphise, I can talk to Mama and believe she listens to me, I can hug her and I can bring her into my room and lay with her, and usually, she'll stay right on my chest or on my pillow.
    Bonds with animals like snakes, frogs, fish, ect. are so interesting because so much trust is involved. I mean, it's no wonder my dog can trust me and understand every little facial expression I make; they evolved with us as our companions. They legitimately think we're part of their family unit, so it's really not that astounding when someone has a dog that trusts them. IMO the trust your snake shows in being relaxed enough to just lay on you like that (cause they definitely know we're alive and not just a part of the scenery!) is a really fascinating thing and no less important than the bonds some people have with their dogs or cats.
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