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    Re: I found an Albino Garden Snake

    So any updates on this?

    I think it is absolutely a shame this person didn't do all they could to get this to a very experienced breeder, like Scott Felzer or someone. I'm sure some of the offspring would have been offered, and then she could have had a "pet" while still getting these valuable genetics into the hobby.

    I'd would have rather seen this animal released to at least spreads genetics in the wild.

    I can't say I'm really against some of the "harsher" comments made in this thread. I do see how some could have been a bit more "tactful" but when the Original poster obviously hadn't even read a garter care sheet I understand their frustration over such a rare animal.

    Most of these mistakes and questions could have easily been cleared up if the original poster had even spent a few hours researching and doing some simple googling. All I can really say is thank god she found this forum.

    If the Original Poster is reading this PLEASE see the importance of getting this animal to someone with experience if you still have it, or please breed! I'm sure someone here will send a new "pet" and offspring from breeding. I will say you are doing a pretty good job at care but this isn't the point at all here. It is just extremely selfish and a waste to keep this snake and not breed it, IMO.

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    Re: I found an Albino Garden Snake

    Quote Originally Posted by PsychedelicTarantulas View Post
    So any updates on this?

    I think it is absolutely a shame this person didn't do all they could to get this to a very experienced breeder, like Scott Felzer or someone. I'm sure some of the offspring would have been offered, and then she could have had a "pet" while still getting these valuable genetics into the hobby.

    I'd would have rather seen this animal released to at least spreads genetics in the wild.

    I can't say I'm really against some of the "harsher" comments made in this thread. I do see how some could have been a bit more "tactful" but when the Original poster obviously hadn't even read a garter care sheet I understand their frustration over such a rare animal.

    Most of these mistakes and questions could have easily been cleared up if the original poster had even spent a few hours researching and doing some simple googling. All I can really say is thank god she found this forum.

    If the Original Poster is reading this PLEASE see the importance of getting this animal to someone with experience if you still have it, or please breed! I'm sure someone here will send a new "pet" and offspring from breeding. It is just extremely selfish and a waste to keep this snake and not breed it, IMO.

    I certainly don't want to light a fire here but this snake belongs to her. If she wants to keep it and not breed it that's her business. Some might not agree with that but we should respect her choice. She's taken some abuse ever since asking for help and that isn't what this forum is about.
    She is here on the forum asking for help and advice. I understand the rarity of this snake but calling her extremely selfish is a bit harsh in my opinion.
    I'm glad the snake is being given care from a person who is interested in its welfare.
    I'm very glad the snake is thriving in her care because its chances in the wild are the same two, slim and none.

    Just my opinion, no disrespect intended
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    Re: I found an Albino Garden Snake

    Hey patrick from my understanding she is going to try and breed it when she gets a mate for it. I would love to snatch up a few scrubs from her! Lol!
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    Re: I found an Albino Garden Snake

    That is awesome news! My heart sunk thinking there was no intent to breed....

    I know I came off as being harsh but if I had ever found an animal so rare I'd of bent over backwards to get it to a breeder knowing I could still have some babies from them, and I am no newbie. It's about advancement of the hobby and the genetics in it. It's about doing the right thing to me. I was taken back by the lack of research done at first and the 0% desire to get this to a breeder...

    I do applaud the keeper for how well they are doing. They seem a 100 times more knowledgeable since there original post, and I can tell they have done research now. I do wish them the best and I do respect the decision of the original poster. I just wish they'd consider the hobby as a whole.

    It all reminds me of my own similar incident. I am an amateur mycologist. I once had a Leucistic form of a certain mushroom strain pop up for me. This was the only known one of it's kind. Instead of keeping the spores and trying to work on this strain for myself I made sure to get spores out to several experienced mycologists. Now this strain is easily found and can be found and worked on by mycologists everywhere. Know if I can just get everyone to stop calling it an albino strain. I just feel If I hadn't spread those spores that strain my have died with me....

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    Re: I found an Albino Garden Snake

    Casper is looking good. You are doing a great job caring for him. Happy early birthday Casper
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    Re: I found an Albino Garden Snake

    Hey I think I found Casper a Boy Toy!!! Tonight while working in my back yard I found this sweetie!!!! I've been praying for a mate for Casper from her own neighborhood and hopefully you nice folks can tell me what to do now that I might have found one :-) Here are some photos of the underside and hopefully they are good enough to sex it. I'm a little afraid after being bit by Casper and I don't know this snake very well but it looks like a regular Garter Snake to me. I have it in a fish bowl and I was going to put some screen with a wire around the top to secure it and then put it in with Casper but with the fish bowl as a barrier. This is due to an unfortunate incident with a cute little frog I though would be a good companion for Casper last week. But that we will not speak of anyway this snake is smaller then Casper so I assume much younger and Casper is a bit aggressive since she bit me so I'm not going to put it in with her without a barrier for now. Correct???? But tonight I have nothing else to put the other snake into and everyone in my house is freaking out a little so hoping I get approval for this idea with window screen on fish bowl as a lid and into Caspers tank. Ok here are the photos Hope it's a boy!IMG_5084.jpgIMG_5083.jpgIMG_5085.jpgIMG_5088.jpgIMG_5095.jpg
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    Re: I found an Albino Garden Snake

    Side by side meeting very interested in each other. I assume they can smell each other cause she left her dinner and became more interested in the smells outside her tank. It really shows the size difference in each other too. Caspers face is just dirty cause she jumped into her snack bowl. IMG_5136.jpgIMG_5145.jpgIMG_5155.jpgIMG_5181.jpg
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    Re: I found an Albino Garden Snake

    OK Thanks Steve tomorrow after I get home from work I will take more photos of it's underbelly hopefully I can get a good shot. Also I'm going to keep the other snake away from Casper. I was reading the Quarantine Thread but didn't get as far as the 90 day part. I only put them side by side for a couple photos. I gave the other snake a couple pieces of worm but not interested. I'm sure cause of all the commotion of capture. I will release it if it's a girl and keep searching for Caspers mate. My family isn't too keen on 2 snakes in the house especially a dark one. That is strange but Casper didn't really scare anyone being lite in color and now she's more aggressive then the dark one. Go figure! LOL! I like the new one it's so sweet and easy going. But even Casper was a stranger at one point so I can't wrap my head around the fear thing. Anyway tomorrow new photos and I will Quarantine. Thank You Nite nite
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    Re: I found an Albino Garden Snake

    IMG_5104.jpgIMG_5103.jpga couple more photos of the underside. I notice a white kinda split. I think it looks different then Casper so I hope it's a boy. Anyway I've been thinking it over and reading more post and since I'm afraid Casper might eat him if he gets out of the fish bowl I'm going to put him in my shed tonight and hope for the best. Looking forward to hearing from someone soon. If it's a boy I will get another tank and wait till he's bigger or older?? I donno what to do here. But I figure quarantine is safer for now. He's so much tamer then Casper. I don't know how Casper got so aggressive since she bit me I do admit she must smell the fear on me. LOL!
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