Accidental Breeding -- Help!

[Invisible Snake]

That's true too, but I don't think it's the same. I think it would be like telling a 40-year-old virgin to just go for daily jogs.

So should we start castrating priests? On second thought that might be a good idea!

[ProXimuS]

That's true too, but I don't think it's the same. I think it would be like telling a 40-year-old virgin to just go for daily jogs.

Well, I guess, it wouldn't be a "solution" but I would think it would help them out more than being a sedintary 40-year-old-virgin. They would probably be a less stressed out 40-year-old-virgin

[Sonya610]

There is really nothing "natural" about the hormones/breeding drives of dogs anymore. Their predecessors, Wolves, and other wild cannids such as Coyotes have very strict breeding practices, they do not breed unless they have a mate/pack and a designated territory to support the litter. The females come into heat at most once a year and generally only one female in a given pack will actually have puppies, the rest of the pack/family work to raise those puppies.

Domestic dogs have lost all of that, the females come in season twice a year and they will breed with multiple males, the males play absolutely no part in raising the young, the females have absolutely no natural support system, all of that has been taken away from them via domestication.

I have always spayed my female dogs before the first heat cycle (except show dogs), the males are another matter and that is done on a case by case basis to keep the aggression level down among the males (if they are mine). Early neutering will definitely have an effect on them, especially the males as they will never gain the muscle mass and bone development of a real adult male dog. The hype to neuter all males is in large part because society as a whole can't handle dogs that are even slightly protective or aggressive.

[kibakiba]

So... Would you castrate a horny teenager to prevent him from screwing and impregnating girls? Lol.

[Selkielass]

So... Would you castrate a horny teenager to prevent him from screwing and impregnating girls? Lol.

I'd make damn sure he knew about condoms and facing consequences of his actions! (lol)

Human sentience aside tho, we are in the early stages of domesticating pet reptiles;

we are selecting for unusual or extreme coloration and temperament and reproductive traits that 'work' in captivity.

I've already said I 'm in favor of humane neutering of pets not intended (for whatever reason) for breeding. I just want too know if there are any *known* reasons why this would or would not be a humane option for reptiles.
Studies may not exist, but has anyone had an animal (reptile) that was sterilized due to disease or accident that lived on as a pet?
Stories, please?!

[Stefan-A]

I recommend euthanasia. Fortunately, the clutch is likely to be relatively small.

I don't think it's cruel, I don't think it's wrong, I don't think it's unnecessary. And this is a clutch that shouldn't have existed in the first place. If there was a way to abort them now, that's what I'd recommend.

Captivity isn't nature and the ranges of T. s. sirtalis and T. s. concinnus don't overlap even if it was.

[stevenrudge]

Harsh and wrong,if they can be tracked to pet homes then all well and good,granted there not to be bred with but to cull them would be morally wrong,for good or bad theres lots of animals that should not (exist)but they do,l'm a purest in that l like pure lines that can be traced,but l also except that in captivity intergading/hybrids/various morphs can and will happen,its how we treat them and trace and bred them thats the issue.

[Stefan-A]

,but l also except that in captivity intergading/hybrids/various morphs can and will happen,its how we treat them and trace and bred them thats the issue.

They can and will happen, the issue is damage control. Containment.

Once they're out of the breeder's hands, they're gone. There's no getting the toothpaste back in that tube.

[stevenrudge]

l have bought gravid females W/C from importers that when they have given birth the said neonate were clearly intergades,l sold them as pets,no serious breeder of any species would want to breed from intergades,unless the species involved were in anyway restricted or endangered,there is no issue,if the species are commonly obtainable then any resulting intergades can and do go to the pet trade with no harm done.

[stevenrudge]

l do have issues with people who seem to see euthaniz as a means of (damage control/containment)that is a very big genie out of the bottle,and once out where do you stop?