Fran or Sanchez?

[gregmonsta]

I'm not sure .. with my concinnus it was tough as they were both exactly the same length and I found that Xena didn't have a pronounced female tail-shape.The only difference to tell her apart from Xerxes was girth. If this is the physically bigger of the two then I'd say you still have your girl. If you weren't so far away I'd offer Xerxes as a stud lol ... in any case, hope we both find the right concinnus soon.

[drache]

really hard to tell, but I would not peg this as a female

[guidofatherof5]

really hard to tell, but I would not peg this as a female

I'm with you Rhea, Tapper from the cloaca isn't pronounced. It tapers but only after that thick looking area. I would say 85% male.

[Sputnik]

Ok, guys, you have me worried now- that's the same snake you identified as female a few days ago, lol!
This is making things a little complicated now as I am a viv short. I had put "it" with my only other female garter, Zulu, but they are of different breed so I best get sorted so they don't cross breed. If it's not too late. Eeek!

[guidofatherof5]

Ok, guys, you have me worried now- that's the same snake you identified as female a few days ago, lol!
This is making things a little complicated now as I am a viv short. I had put "it" with my only other female garter, Zulu, but they are of different breed so I best get sorted so they don't cross breed. If it's not too late. Eeek!

Different photos offer different views. A visual(photo or first hand) confirmation is, of course just an educated guess. True, confirmation is firsthand knowledge of copulation, probing or birthing. We certaining don't want to confuss you, only help the best we can. Having both of the photos together would offer us those different views for comparison. Sorry, for any confusion on my part.

[gregmonsta]

I'm not sure .. with my concinnus it was tough as they were both exactly the same length and I found that Xena didn't have a pronounced female tail-shape.The only difference to tell her apart from Xerxes was girth. If this is the physically bigger of the two then I'd say you still have your girl. If you weren't so far away I'd offer Xerxes as a stud lol ... in any case, hope we both find the right concinnus soon.

Ok, guys, you have me worried now- that's the same snake you identified as female a few days ago, lol!
This is making things a little complicated now as I am a viv short. I had put "it" with my only other female garter, Zulu, but they are of different breed so I best get sorted so they don't cross breed. If it's not too late. Eeek!

double check ... was there a noticable size difference between the two? ... Xena could have confused people too .... but she was definately a big girly.

[Sputnik]

Different photos offer different views. A visual(photo or first hand) confirmation is, of course just an educated guess. True, confirmation is firsthand knowledge of copulation, probing or birthing. We certaining don't want to confuss you, only help the best we can. Having both of the photos together would offer us those different views for comparison. Sorry, for any confusion on my part.

I'm so sorry, I wrote the post this morning before rushing out of the door and I thought later it might have sounded as if I was blaming you when you were all just trying to help. That's not the case, I do realise it's not as easy to identify from photos and am very grateful to you for trying.

Greg, this snakey is a little smaller than the other, but not hugely so.

[guidofatherof5]

I'm so sorry, I wrote the post this morning before rushing out of the door and I thought later it might have sounded as if I was blaming you when you were all just trying to help. That's not the case, I do realise it's not as easy to identify from photos and am very grateful to you for trying.

Greg, this snakey is a little smaller than the other, but not hugely so.

Not a problem. Have a great day.

[Sputnik]

I have actually still got the dead snake refrigerated as we were waiting to bury her today. Maybe I'll take a couple more pictures? If that's not too gross?

[Sputnik]

Thumbnails this time so they don't take up too much space:

(pictures 1 and 5 show the dead snake only, otherwise it's the one in the background, with the red dot after the vent.)