Gail's garter - the snake kind silly.

[jwolfe152]

i just meant the girth of them, even up by your hand, they look big to me, but, i like that size snake

[kueluck]

CIMG0267.jpgCIMG0268.jpg I guess they are a bit thick in the middle. I think I'll start putting them in the tub each night for a few laps. Maybe that'll help slim 'em down some.

[guidofatherof5]

Good solid looking garters to me.

[chris-uk]

CIMG0267.jpgCIMG0268.jpg I guess they are a bit thick in the middle. I think I'll start putting them in the tub each night for a few laps. Maybe that'll help slim 'em down some.

Sturdy girls, no need to slim them down is there?

[jwolfe152]

i think they look great they look the same as my WC female i got about a week ago. they look healthy and natural

[jwolfe152]

also i was wondering what kind of substrate is being used in the first pic? can they or do they like to burrow into it? i know the white stuff is care fresh i have not seen any wood substrates that are that small

[kueluck]

Don't you think the scale spread is a bit much for a healthy snake? I know overweight anything life span is shorter, just trying to keep the girls around as long as possible.
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And I use Sani-Chips on one side & Carefresh on the water dish side. Yes they can burrow in the sani-chips, but it can get packed down, I fluff it up now and then. It clumps kinda like cat litter which makes cleaning easy. I need the carefresh on water dish side, othewise they drag the chips into the water and I'm afraid they might suck it up when drinking.
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[jwolfe152]

now im no expert but i dont think that it is that bad but i would like another opinion. none of sime have any scale spread unless im handling and they are breathing heavy or wrapped around a finger, but if that spread is bad/unhealthy i would like to know so i can keep an eye on them to make sure they dont get to big.

[chris-uk]

The scale spread I see in the photos is opened up by the curve, it's far from the worst I've seen in non-gravid snakes. Maybe a couple of lengths of the bath each week would be good, exercise can't be bad for them can it?

[jwolfe152]

i dont think it would be bad unless they are stressed in the water swimming around fast