Thanks for nothing (or: new snake had mites)

[-MARWOLAETH-]

I'm sorry to hear about the snake and the rotten deal.

Don't keep babies in faunariums. They can flatten their heads out to fit through the smallest of gaps (like my little sod did)

45cm³ Exo Terras are practically escape proof and will do pair until their subadults.

[chris-uk]

45cm³ Exo Terras are practically escape proof and will do pair until their subadults.

Just need to sort the polystyrene background to make sure the little buggers don't get behind it. It's the first place to look if you have an "escape" from an ExoTerra and are using the background.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Just need to sort the polystyrene background to make sure the little buggers don't get behind it. It's the first place to look if you have an "escape" from an ExoTerra and are using the background.

I took the background out of mine because the snake can't climb on it so it's was just a waist of space.

Be sure to post pics of the background when it's done!

[guidofatherof5]

Quarantine is a very important part of keeping healthy animals.
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/husb...lk-thread.html

[channa]

So the mites are back. Kinda getting fed up of it. What do people in the uk use? Provent a mite is not available,callingtons will kill garter snakes and hog nose snakes, zoo meds mite off doesn't do anything at all. The only one left is beaphar insect spray but contains Ivermectin and don't know if that will kill the snakes too.Box says not to be used on animals under 80g and all mine are way under that more like 20g. What do you guys think?

[guidofatherof5]

So the mites are back. Kinda getting fed up of it. What do people in the uk use? Provent a mite is not available,callingtons will kill garter snakes and hog nose snakes, zoo meds mite off doesn't do anything at all. The only one left is beaphar insect spray but contains Ivermectin and don't know if that will kill the snakes too.Box says not to be used on animals under 80g and all mine are way under that more like 20g. What do you guys think?

Don't use it. Too much risk. You can keep the mites at bay by soaking the snakes daily. I think I PM'ed you the instruction. Complete cage cleaning with bleach (10 parts water, 1 part bleach) use paper towels for substrate. A water dish and hide is all you need. Watch the paper towel for any crawling dots. Smash them when you see them. Change paper towels daily, placing them in a plastic bag. Freeze the bag then throw them anyway out of the house.

[guidofatherof5]

Provent-a-Mite is available to be shipped to the U.K.
PM me your address and I'll contact them to see what the cost+shipping will be to you.

[channa]

It is Steve ive emailed them but it's quite expensive to ship and they wont send it recorded delivery so if it goes missing i lose out. Whos to say they send it in the first place. Ive a friend who is on vacation in miami and is going to try get me some while they are there.

[guidofatherof5]

Great. I hope that works out.
What was shipping going to cost if you don't mind me asking.

[channa]

Great. I hope that works out.
What was shipping going to cost if you don't mind me asking.

Tim,

Callingtons is actually an aircraft spray they labeled for use with reptiles. It was never designed or formulated for this purpose. The active is not very effective in eliminating mites and you need to use a much higher concentration and more product to achieve any result (a published study done by the University of Florida tested 11 acaracides for ectoparasites on tortoises, where our product was found to be the most effective with the least risk of any health risks and the active in Callingtons was found to be the least effective and posed a higher health risk).

When used as directed, Provent-a-mite will not harm a neonate snake and is commonly used with garters and well as every other species of reptile being kept, but as with any pesticide, it can pose a risk if not used properly. In our case, the product must be dry and all vapors vented from the enclosure before the animals are put back. One problem we have seen is customers spray the bare cage and then put their substrate such as paper liners in before the product has dried. This traps vapors under the liner, so when the snake hides under the liner, it is exposed to the vapors that are still being created by the drying treatment. This is the reason our label states not to treat bare cages, you treat the surface of the substrate. You mention hognosed snakes, which are much more susceptible to chemicals than other species. We have many well known breeders and hobbyists in the US that use Provent-a-mite regularly with their hogs without any problems, but if the application is not dry, or the vapors have not been completely vented, you will have a higher risk of problems with these animals.

Another major issue with Callingtons is that there is no residual protection despite any claim. The active is not photo-stable and breaks down quickly in the presence of any light, so unless the application directly contacts the mites, there is no residual activity to kill the mites that were not directly sprayed, especially the mites that left the cage which will come back at a later date and re-infest the collection. This is why so many repeated applications are required. Provent-a-mite bonds to the treated surface, can't be washed or wiped off once dry and will last at least 30 days (usually several months), so in most cases, one application is all that is needed to eliminate an infestation. Provent-a-mite is also less expensive than other available treatments by using up to 4 times less product per application and is the only product that will provide long term residual protection, usually resulting in only one application necessary to eliminate an infestation.

These are the terms on international orders regarding our Provent-a-mite spray.

We accept Visa, Mastercard, bank checks or a money order in US funds. To ship one can of Provent-a-mite to the UK would be $15.95 + $22.00 S&H, two would be $31.90 + $26.00 S&H. Larger orders can be quoted on request. The order is sent via USPS first class mail which does not provide for insurance coverage, so we can't guarantee the parcel will be delivered and will not be responsible for lost or undelivered mail.

We could just send Provent-a-mite overseas without explaining all of this and you would most likely just end up just getting the parcel, but we want to be as honest as we can with our customers up front as so to avoid any problems later on.

If you would like to order this online, you can do so by ordering the product and then in the special instructions section located on the final order page, tell us that you agree with the terms of this e-mail. You will be charged per this e-mail and not what will automatically show up on the shopping cart.

Bob @ Pro Products
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