Help with identification

[Charlet_2007]

fair enough

[jeanette]

Okay guys.. peace. Let's agree to differ until we see better pictures.
But I think we must all agree that the utmost caution is called for until a positive ID is reached.

i completely agree James, and if we cant positively ID it, the best advice would be for it to be released well away from people. We need a tail shot to be 100% sure that this isnt a rattler.

[adamanteus]

I think I should e-mail the guy though, and tell him there is some doubt about the ID, just in case.

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

well if it ends of being venemous i am soo glad it did not bite his daughter

[jeanette]

I think I should e-mail the guy though, and tell him there is some doubt about the ID, just in case.

yeah do it James ive been searching through pictures and i have to agree the heterdon nasicus nasicus does bear a striking resemblance to the massasauga.

[jeanette]

James, if your e-mailing him, suggest he call his local wildlife rescue people, they can come and identify it and take it off his hands if it is infact dangerous

[adamanteus]

i have to agree the heterdon nasicus nasicus does bear a striking resemblance to the massasauga.

Indeed it does, Jeanette, but H. n. nasicus does not occur in Michigan.
I've mailed him, just to recommend extreme caution.

[adamanteus]

James, if your e-mailing him, suggest he call his local wildlife rescue people, they can come and identify it and take it off his hands if it is infact dangerous

Excellent idea.... consider it done.

[Zephyr]

I'm pretty sure that ISN'T a hognose. The nose would be a little more upturned, even in a juvenile...

[adamanteus]

Let's wait for better pictures Kyle.