A disturbing trend, really disturbing

[Lulu Bennett]

I think that to collect 1 or 2 snakes then fine, our collection of animals (not just snakes) all come from wild animals but when people take Gravid females...
if not knowlagable then risk loosing a good 20 or so babies that could have each have had 20 or so babies of their own. that is a good 400 snakes, just within 2/3 generations, that could be replenishing the population.
how do you think san fransisco garters became so rare? people being to gready and taking more and more of what they didn't need.
Don't get me wrong, i plan on getting my hands on a w/c Grass snakefor a few weeks purely for observation.
I will eventually be attending university studying Wildlife and zoo biology.
i wish to concentrate more on native reptiles so it will be used for study and then i will release it again.

[drache]

you know what
there's a few noobs ending up with them by accident turning up here during that time of the year
obviously they want to do the right thing, or else they wouldn't end up here
and you're not the only one
people here have no problems addressing persons directly - amazingly without harsh language
just that this was perceived as a trend, possibly because of some people's attitude toward the matter in another thread

[anji1971]

Even some longer term snake owners have and have kept gravid wild-caught females.
The topic of this thread is an opinion, and a discussion based on others' reaction to that opinion.
Some of us keep wild caught snakes, some don't believe in it at all.
There is never a need to tell someone off simply because you don't agree with them. Otherwise, very few of us would be able to keep talking to each other!
One of the things that sets this forum apart is the ability we've had to share our (sometimes vastly) differing opinions. Without being nasty.
If you don't like the way a thread is going, or you feel so strongly about the subject that you can't possibly be nice, then just don't post at all in that thread. That's the most cooperative solution I can think of.

[Zephyr]

More or less to say, his snake was a "gift" from me. My friend found her curled near her pool heater; if she'd stuck around eventually she'd have been killed by her dad or the lawn truck. I had only the slightest impression she was gravid; turns out she was. I've seen the babies and his setup for them; all are eating well, a much higher success rate than even we "professionals" usually have. So, if the babies are doing well, mom's still alive, the babies are headed for good homes, who's to say his endeavors aren't a success and a good springboard into the deeper end of the hobby?

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

were not.... we are wondering why he felt the need to yell SCREW YOU at wayne for starting this thread.

[GartersRock]

Yes. Nobody said anything to him at all other then why you yelling at Wayne!

[reptileparadise]

Oi, thats actually the very first time I see an reaction like that on this forum!
It makes me wonder about the change of atmosphere here...

[Lulu Bennett]

Unfortunatly, i think, that is what comes with the forum growing.

[Stefan-A]

Well, I expected the forum to reach that level about a year and a half ago. I'm almost amazed we've lasted this long without personal attacks becoming "routine".

[drache]

look
we're all still here
as long as we make sure, new people learn that bad language is not welcome here . . .
my own people skills are inconsistent at times of stress
Person365 (sorry - don't know your name) - next time you feel attacked - please do a reality check - even something as simple as "hey - you talking to me, man?"