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    Re: Possible WC hypo

    Ok james I will humor you. I mamals you are some what correct. However it is not a lack of colour it is a lack of melanin or black colour. A hypo melanistic animal would have a reduced amount of melanin. A albino would have no melanin and a lousistic would have no colour but would not have pink eyes They are usually blue.

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    Re: Possible WC hypo

    Yes they are Albinos. A very dark phase.
    There are many phases of Albinos in Garters. You can check out these sites:
    Scott Felzer's Garter Snakes, specializing in aberrant garters
    Alan's Garter Snakes - My Collection

    I personally believe yours to be a "Caramel Albino Eastern".
    What do you plan to do with him?
    Amanda Tolleson

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    Re: Possible WC hypo

    Quote Originally Posted by GartersRock View Post
    Yes they are Albinos. A very dark phase.
    There are many phases of Albinos in Garters. You can check out these sites:
    Scott Felzer's Garter Snakes, specializing in aberrant garters
    Alan's Garter Snakes - My Collection

    I personally believe yours to be a "Caramel Albino Eastern".
    What do you plan to do with him?
    Thanks for the links. After takeing another good look at this snake in the sun light I can see that the eye color is red and I now believe this is a albino. Thanks for the all the help! As to what I will do with him or her, I am trying to capture some other snakes from this population and see if I can't get it to breed true.

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    Re: Possible WC hypo

    Quote Originally Posted by GartersRock View Post
    Yes they are Albinos. A very dark phase.
    There are many phases of Albinos in Garters. You can check out these sites:
    Scott Felzer's Garter Snakes, specializing in aberrant garters
    Alan's Garter Snakes - My Collection

    I wonder if they make an all black albino, I could cross it with my melanistic and create a completely invisible snake!
    James.

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    Re: Possible WC hypo

    Quote Originally Posted by adamanteus View Post
    I wonder if they make an all black albino, I could cross it with my melanistic and create a completely invisible snake!
    save me a pair!!!!! (if you can find them...lol!)

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    Re: Possible WC hypo

    i just call george the rusty morph lol i dont think there is an actual name cuz other than your snake i haven't seen any other eaterns with this color
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    Re: Possible WC hypo

    Humour me, Guys...... Albinos lack pigment, don't they?

    1. A person or animal lacking normal pigmentation, with the result being that the skin and hair are abnormally white or milky and the eyes have a pink or blue iris and a deep-red pupil.

    al·bi·no / alˈbīnō/ • n. (pl. -nos) a person or animal having a congenital absence of pigment in the skin and hair (which are white) and the eyes (which are typically pink). inf. an abnormally white animal or plant: an albino tiger. DERIVATIVES: al·bi·nism / ˈalbəˌnizəm/ n.
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    Re: Possible WC hypo

    Quote Originally Posted by adamanteus View Post
    Humour me, Guys...... Albinos lack pigment, don't they?

    1. A person or animal lacking normal pigmentation, with the result being that the skin and hair are abnormally white or milky and the eyes have a pink or blue iris and a deep-red pupil.

    al·bi·no / alˈbīnō/ • n. (pl. -nos) a person or animal having a congenital absence of pigment in the skin and hair (which are white) and the eyes (which are typically pink). inf. an abnormally white animal or plant: an albino tiger. DERIVATIVES: al·bi·nism / ˈalbəˌnizəm/ n.
    Albino is lacking of pigment on mamals!
    Reptiles are amelanistic, anerythristic on axanthistic.

    But happy welcome, Bill.
    You have a beautyfull snake
    Allready waiting for the sommer
    best wishes bis bald Udo
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    Re: Possible WC hypo

    Well... Very few albinos lack all their pigment...

    Maybe there is a better genetic term for these "Caramel Albinos" but that's what Scott calls them. *shrug*
    And his snake has red eyes.
    Amanda Tolleson

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    Re: Possible WC hypo

    I'd call them 'wine,' vs. caramel. Such a rich red w/o really being red. I don't know. Know what I mean? Caramel's more brownie?

    Quote Originally Posted by GartersRock View Post
    Well... Very few albinos lack all their pigment...

    Maybe there is a better genetic term for these "Caramel Albinos" but that's what Scott calls them. *shrug*
    And his snake has red eyes.
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