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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    Okay, I just found a new locale that I could do brumating in. Our attic is roughly 20 degrees warmer than the outside air. It's 33 out and about 50 in the attic. Could I do brumating in there? If I insulated their container, would they be okay when the temperature dips?
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    So Kyle, before you do this, remember the sun is hitting the roof right now, Measure the temps tonight when it goes down, and there is no radiant heat from the light to raise it up.

    Basements are more stable, but yours is heated I assume (from pictures I have seen you post)

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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    Quote Originally Posted by dekaybrown View Post
    So Kyle, before you do this, remember the sun is hitting the roof right now, Measure the temps tonight when it goes down, and there is no radiant heat from the light to raise it up.

    Basements are more stable, but yours is heated I assume (from pictures I have seen you post)
    My basement is heated when I want it to be. lol
    Normally it's in the low 60's down here, but I can turn on the electric fireplace to bring it into the low 70's. I'll do another measurement at about 11 tonight.
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    i have been putting mine in the basement which is 55-60 and they all do fine.... and it brings meadow out of her fasting every year???
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    It hit 4 degrees Celsius in my attic. I'm thinking it's a little risky. We do have a "Crawl space" near out pantry where they would stay cool... The red-sided female shed today, and showed little interest in food, so I'll be decreasing their photoperiod and moving them down here within the next week.
    It's a good 62 here now, I'm sure it's about 58 under the stairs.

    Also... I have two baby butler's and one little eastern refusing food, as well as my dekay's. Could I put them all together? I don't think cannibalism would be a problem.
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    I have found that that oil-filled radiator has a thermostat with a low enough setting that it kicks in at around 45ºF
    I created an area that's sort of tented by space blankets and has the heater inside
    basically it's a group of tanks with some insulation and the space blankets
    the sunporch is about 10º higher than outside at night and I've not needed the extra heat very much
    I did bring in the anery radix yesterday, just because they looked dry

    I don't think that grouping would be a problem, Kyle
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    Kyle, as long as they have all passed the quarantine process.... I don't see why not. Dekayi's and garters are often found together in the wild!
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    Good news. The dekay's ate today. She must've been a little jumpy because she was in shed, but she was a little hesitant at food... I'm crossing my fingers and hoping she'll still eat at the next feeding.
    As for the garters... They're going to have to be cooled. Today's feeding day for the babies, so hopefully I can get the one eastern and the butler's to eat.
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    Got an accurate temp from under the stairs. About 60, and I'm sure it drops a little more in the night. Sound okay for a quick cool-down?
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    Re: Losses in Brumation.

    This is the first year that I have brumated my snakes (98% garters). So far, I have lost 2. Both were w/c valley garters. All had water tubs large enough to completely submerse in. All have very high humidity, at 85% or higher at times. The temps where they are being kept stay around 44 degrees F. I have to assume that the valleys' still had parasites even after being treated before being brumated. I will be bringing them out of brumation within the next 3 weeks. With luck maybe the number of losses won't increase any.

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