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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    I'm too lazy to get off my ***, walk 2 meters to the book shelf and check, but I think those pictures deliberately exaggerated the characteristics to better explain what the differences are.

    I'm leaning towards female.

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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    Here you go.

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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    I'm so confused now. Can you please try to get a pic of the tail held straight so that I can stop being confused? Because now I am right back to square one with this sexing...
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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    Hmm She/He lol is really hard to hold straight lol Babs is always 'tail wrapping' anything n everything from my fingers to the camera wrist string lol when I took those I literally had to untie her/his tail from the wrist string. lol It was a neat little knot I think she was just trying to steal my camera. She wouldn't let go of it lol

    I had originally thought female as well but then I got George and his tail looks mighty similar but longer.. but he is bigger as well... Maybe I'll try popping ... Any tips?
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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    From what everyone has told me popping is difficult and not such a good idea. I tried it once with Seeley and I had no luck and then I just worried all day that I hurt him.
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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    Injuries can occur if it's not done right. I've never done it.
    I find tail structure to be the best/safest way.
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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    If Steve, Chris, Richard and Stefan are all saying female...I'd go with female. They have been doing this a long time. I just started trying to sex based on tail structure.
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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    Injuries can occur if it's not done right. I've never done it.
    I find tail structure to be the best/safest way.
    Agreed. I've seen people that were so confident they could pop a garter and ended up hurting them, or at best, calling them female just because nothing came out. I don't recommend it. It's not necessary. Not all males have a bulge after the cloaca. However, if it's a male, the width of the tail after the cloaca is usually about the same width of the body before the cloaca. If you look at the width right before the cloaca, and see that the tail isn't as wide right after the cloaca, you have a female. Hope that made sense.

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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    Quote Originally Posted by EasternGirl View Post
    If Steve, Chris, Richard and Stefan are all saying female...I'd go with female. They have been doing this a long time.
    That's not to say we've never been wrong. I certainly have been wrong before. Usually with very young snakes. It's much easier to be certain if the snake is at least 12 inches long, or about a year old. When visually sexing neonates, I only get about 90 percent accuracy. After a year old, or 12 inches, accuracy is nearly 100% just by sexing visually.

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    Re: Heat options in plastic tank?

    Well yeah...a couple of people on here thought Seeley was female based on pics...but he was only about 8 or 9 inches long at the time...he was young.
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