Ribbon Snake won't stop rolling

[RedSidedSPR]

haha the 19KPH wind

Great now i have to google again

[ConcinusMan]

Just checked the thermometers, I was way off. The temperature is actually 72 on the cool side and 79-80 on the warm side. Next time I'll actually make sure before I say something.

Now that sounds great. I go a little bit warmer myself since concinnus' seem to like their temperature body temp at around 86-88 most of the time, but what you just told me is a lot better than what you said before! I do recommend a drop at night though,(turn off heat and you can let it get down to as low as 65) and a day length of around 14 hours. They should thrive.

[RedSidedSPR]

Yeah, like I said, it's better than my temps!!

[kibakiba]

I'm sorry, I meant the hot side, but said the cool side. The hot side is fine and doesn't need to go any higher. That is just my opinion, though.

[New Mutant]

I'm sorry, I meant the hot side, but said the cool side. The hot side is fine and doesn't need to go any higher. That is just my opinion, though.

He spends all his time on the hot side, though. He spends the night in his cave on the warm side, which seems fine, but he doesn't seem to leave it much during the day, either. I thought reptiles were supposed to go back and forth between the two sides? It bothers me because I want to see him, and I spend up to an hour redecorating his entire cage after cleaning and want my efforts to be appreciated .Maybe I just need to move his cave to the cool side.

He used to come out of the cave (still in the warm spot, but it's a start) and cuddle with Luke under the lamp. It was adorable. Could he be afraid since he doesn't have the bolder snake to protect him anymore? Does he miss his "brother"?

[d_virginiana]

They definitely seem to get bolder when other snakes are around.. Does he have anywhere to hide on the cool side? Try putting some fake plants or something over there and see if he moves about more.

[guidofatherof5]

He spends all his time on the hot side, though. He spends the night in his cave on the warm side, which seems fine, but he doesn't seem to leave it much during the day, either. I thought reptiles were supposed to go back and forth between the two sides? It bothers me because I want to see him, and I spend up to an hour redecorating his entire cage after cleaning and want my efforts to be appreciated .Maybe I just need to move his cave to the cool side.

He used to come out of the cave (still in the warm spot, but it's a start) and cuddle with Luke under the lamp. It was adorable. Could he be afraid since he doesn't have the bolder snake to protect him anymore? Does he miss his "brother"?

Garter are creatures of habit. Changing things around too much might make them uncomfortable. Small changes are better. I love to watch them checking out a new item I put in.
I doubt he's looking for the bolder snake but I do believe they feel more comfortable in groups.
Leave things alone and see if it gets better.

[kibakiba]

People would argue that snakes don't care about the other snakes in the tank. I think they appreciate the company. He's going to need hides in both areas of the tank, they like having a lot of hides. I provide at least 4, they move between those.

[ConcinusMan]

We seek out and appreciate "company" because we are mammals. What motivates us is different from what motivates them. I do not believe that they feel or get the same emotions from having company as we do.

See this post: http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/gene...tml#post169159

There is security in numbers. The individual snake is safer when it is part of a group. His odds of surviving an attack by a predator are better if he is part of a group. In short, he feels safer with the others present. It boils down to the same reason an individual snake would prefer to spend his time in a safe and secure hide, instead of sitting out in the open.

[Kantar]

Is there lots of places to climb? vines throughout the tank?

from what I have seen my WC red sided (spot) that I've had for 3 years is non stop moving around, doesn't really stay in 1 spot, easily the most active snake I have by far. There was a point in time where Spot was alone for about a month or 2, during that time spot wasn't active, he sat in his cave and only had his head peeking out. Spot now lives with 2 other male easterns and is always active now, never hiding except for sleep which seems like he never does.

Is it possible that you can give percy a friend of roughly the same size?