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[ConcinusMan]

when you do find the article would you send it to me i would like to know more about this bike path

I will try but you know even if I don't find it, the link to the article I did provide says enough already. Now, if they're so damn worried about a few people "disturbing" them to take photos, then why are they even considering this project? Why they don't just build a damn freeway right on top of the den and get it over with.

Well I can't seem to find the damn story but I did find this. A similar project, though prime snake habitat, and the result wasn't good. Snakes continue to cross the path and get killed by bicycles or people who encounter them and kill them intentionally.

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[Mrs N1ntndo]

LEt me know where this bike path is exactly and I should even be able to find it cause I like to look for things like that.

[ConcinusMan]

By the way guys, when I get to CA (pretty darn soon) there won't be any garters at all where I am. (the central valley's almond growing country) Plenty of neat lizards, rattlers, and some of the biggest gopher snakes you've ever laid eyes on. However, it's not far at all to the nearest stable population of Thamnophis gigas. It's the same spot where I saw them in the wild before. I will do my best to get permission from the farmers to go out and get some good photos of them to share. :-)

Also with just a little travel time, I can get to herp for some of California's best garter species. They're not far, they're just not in the valley (with the exception of gigas) where I'll be. Check out the weather there. I can live with that. it's a dry heat.

[BUSHSNAKE]

Im packing my bags Richard...just give me directions, we're going herping

[ConcinusMan]

Im packing my bags Richard...just give me directions, we're going herping

OK but you're staying in a hotel. There's a motel 6 within walking distance.

[RedSidedSPR]

Do you plan on keeping any of them? Or just herp?

[ConcinusMan]

I'll have to get a fishing license and then there will be a daily bag limit but of course I probably will keep some (no gigas or SF garters obviously) and use some to trade and rebuild my collection. I won't be far at all from the bay area and surrounding counties and you know there's awesome garters there.

I most definitely will have to go out (this works within blocks of where I'm living) after sundown on a hot day and go road cruising to get myself the biggest, meanest gopher snake I can find. I swear to God, there's 7-8 footers out there on the roads at night. They're monsters.

Herping season is actually very, very long there. You can find snakes in December.

[RedSidedSPR]

Are gigas protected?

7-8 feet? Awesome!!!

[ConcinusMan]

Gigas is critically endangered so yes, but stable thanks to cooperation from farmers in the valley. Most of the area is almond orchards, other farmland, and rice farms as far as the eye can see. Historically it was all wetland habitat for gigas.

[BUSHSNAKE]

Hey Richard i got an update on the Whelling bike trail(from a friend of mine whos a former Lincoln Park Zoo Keeper, this guy knows everybody)anyways it was SHUT DOWN...PERIOD. and asked him what he thought about people trying to get pictures of Massasauga, he just gave me that looked and laughed..."yeh right!"