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    Re: A note concerning pre-packaged frozen fish

    I've never met a garter that didn't devour them immediately with great enthusiasm.

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    Re: A note concerning pre-packaged frozen fish

    I'm new to this, & feeding a wild-caught Western Ribbonsnake who is thriving. She has mostly eaten small crappie from the bait shop, to avoid thiaminase. She'll also occasionally take scented pinkies but rarely unscented ones. I'm aware of the risk of parasites from live fish...should I encourage pinkies more, or what?

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    Re: A note concerning pre-packaged frozen fish

    I live in Iowa and the only way I'm getting any fresh, never frozen fish is to go catch it myself.
    I'm hoping the tilapia I purchase is as close to fresh as I can get. I'm not sure any of use really know what we are getting when we buy fish.
    I think that tilapia offer a lower risk of problems then some of the other fish. Since I switched to tilapia only(unless I catch some bluegill) I have had zero problems with my snakes(fingers crossed)
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    Re: A note concerning pre-packaged frozen fish

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    I live in Iowa and the only way I'm getting any fresh, never frozen fish is to go catch it myself.
    I'm hoping the tilapia I purchase is as close to fresh as I can get.
    Aside from the preservative problem, "fresh frozen" fish is much safer if it will be eaten raw. Those industrial freezers kill all of the parasites (which is why most sushi is pre-frozen for safety). I would watch where it comes from too, I saw frog legs from CHINA at our seafood counter the other day, I have to remember to read the small print and double check where the fish is coming from. I wish companies had to list the source of the ingredients, it scares me to think food products from China are added to foods labeled as manufactured elsewhere.

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    Re: A note concerning pre-packaged frozen fish

    Steve, most commercial tilapia is farmed so it may be fairly fresh.
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    Re: A note concerning pre-packaged frozen fish

    Well now I'm really worried. I was advised to feed my garter tilapia but never told not to use frozen fillets... She literally just ate a meal of packaged tilapia fillets from Costco. Should she not be fed these? If I have to go out and buy fresh, never frozen, tilapia every week then I would rather just continue feeding pinkies and worms... I don't understand why I was encouraged to feed fish at all of there is such a great danger? Some advice would be helpful...

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    Re: A note concerning pre-packaged frozen fish

    Quote Originally Posted by xStatic View Post
    If I have to go out and buy fresh, never frozen, tilapia every week then I would rather just continue feeding pinkies and worms...
    Understand that freezing is not the problem, the chemical added to some (or most) frozen fish so it stays fresher looking is the problem. I just bought some fresh/frozen Tilapia and cut it up and threw it in my freezer, I am not worried about freezing it. I am worried that it was treated with Sodium Tripolyphosphate though, that is listed as a neuro-toxin and is limited in most countries (but not the US).

    I just called my grocery store and got the name of their supplier, some company called Rain Forest Aquaculture that farms tilapia in Costa Rica and ships it to the US. I am going to call their Florida office tomorrow to ask if they are using that chemical (I kind of suspect they probably are, it makes thawed fish look fresh and pretty). I also got the name of the Trout supplier which is based in Idaho and maybe they aren't using it.

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    Re: A note concerning pre-packaged frozen fish

    I would say don't feed it any more. Fresh is what you should be using. Sorry for any misunderstanding or failure to define what to use.
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    Re: A note concerning pre-packaged frozen fish

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    I would say don't feed it any more. Fresh is what you should be using. Sorry for any misunderstanding or failure to define what to use.
    Thank you for your help. Hopefully my post doesn't sound too rude. I'm just becoming stressed because I've read many garter snake care sheets and am trying my best to insure my snake is healthy but I am constantly making mistakes. Garter snakes are much different animals than other genres of snakes and I'm finding out my experience with these other reptiles hardly applies to the care of garters. I just want to make sure my animals are healthy
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    Re: A note concerning pre-packaged frozen fish

    I understood the added chemical was causing the problem but it doesn't seem worth it to me to risk feeding any pre-packaged fish if there's a risk of the fish being treated with harmful substances. From my understanding my snake can get full nutrition from eating only mice and worms. I can see the need to feed fish if snakes refuse to eat mice. Are silversides safe from these chemicals? Can I buy silversides at petsmart? My snake seemed to like the fish and accepted it immediately, so I would be willing to feed silversides if I knew they were safe. If not I will probably just be avoiding fish in the future
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