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    Re: Bit concerned about this

    Ok I'll try and see if the vet near us can at least send a sample to be examined in the mean time I was in pet shop today (I know he knows his stuff) and he said I should try and open his mouth and if it's ulcerated which he thinks looking at the picture that it is.

    I was to treat it with iodine, I'm hoping the vet can get something stronger if needed.

    Thanks for the advice so far,

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    Re: Bit concerned about this

    I was thinking it looked similar to a fungal infection that birds get, and like stomatitis in reptiles but it didn't look to me like it was actually in his mouth. If it is, that is how it's usually treated. They debride and yes, sometimes there's a lot of bleeding, but it's necessary, then they treat with iodine. Not easy to get rid of though. It's an uphill battle usually. Your call though if you want spend the money and try. Good luck.

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    Re: Bit concerned about this

    Was also advised to remove him from his current tank and place on his own with just a water dish to keep it sterile guess that makes sense too last time he was to the vet they gave him baytril and I kept him alone (which he did not like) but I concerned it might spread to my female.

    I'll keep you updated shall ring vet and hopefully they can get sample sent off to be examined, and hopefully can advise from there.

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    Re: Bit concerned about this

    I agree, now that someone mentions it, it does look like it could be fungal... Also, just a thought... What temps are you keeping him at? I have no idea if this would help at all without knowing what sort of infection it is, but fungal infections in frogs can sometimes be treated by boosting temps to the upper 80's for a few days. This would also increase his immune system, so it might not be a bad idea anyway.

    If he's not already by himself, you need to get him alone ASAP. Whether it's bacterial or fungal, it could be contagious and you don't want him sharing space and water with healthy snakes. If there are other snakes with him now, after you move him to a new tank you need to clean the old one and everything in it REALLY well before putting the others back.
    In his new tank you can put newspaper bedding. I started using it when mine had a mouth infection, to keep dirt and stuff from getting in his mouth. No dust or debris, but it still gives them something to get traction on, since they don't seem to like crawling on plain glass.
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    Re: Bit concerned about this

    If they didn't do a biopsy, which requires a culture done in a lab, and extra expense, usually vets do just give them baytril and if that clears it up as it would most infections, you're all good. But if it didn't work, then get that biopsy done because there are plenty of agents, although not as common, that baytril won't get rid of. I know that when I, or one of my friends' bird collections got a "mouth rot" outbreak, knowing the exact culprit right away was key to knowing what medication to use. Using the wrong medication does nothing to help.

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    Re: Bit concerned about this

    Ok just back from vet and they took a sample hopefully we will know more later on in the week he thought it looked fungal but also said he could be bacterial he would know more after it's cultured.

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    Re: Bit concerned about this

    I got a call from vet friday unfortunately the cultures showed nothing he said he'd grow the fungus ones (he thinks) for a bit longer and tomorrow I'm suppose to call again otherwise he'll just have to give him something and hope for the best.

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    Re: Bit concerned about this

    Assmodius shed today vet said cultures showed nothing I'm getting some pictures of him now that the scabby looking thing is gone (when he shed) so will put those up Would his old shed with that scabby thing on it be any use to the vet?

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    Re: Bit concerned about this

    Not sure if it will be of any use to the Vet. but since this is a recurring problem you're not out of the woods in my opinion.
    I think some preventative measures need to be taken.

    Looking forward to seeing the photos and a much cleared up face on your scrub.
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    Re: Bit concerned about this

    Save the scabby thing. Kinda gross, but make sure the vet doesn't need it for samples before tossing it.
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