Abrupt lump after feeding?

[prattypus]

Alright- I got back from a two week class for work, and I enlisted my brother to feed the mouths in my place. He said there were no problems, but his eperience is even more limited than my own.

I was re acclimating myself with my crawlies, but I noticed a rather sharp lump a few inches down my anery plains body. I asked what was fed, and he told me nightcrawlers, left in their compost, and some goldfish (I've already chewed is postier for this one- "well you said fish- I meant salmon in the freezer- that's a longer vent.)

Have any of you ever seen this? This is also the same one that I snagged that lengthy thread-like worm from awhile back.

I will post some pics- right now I am unpacking and looking for some prelim feedback

Thanks.

[guidofatherof5]

No call from me until I see a photo. How's the attitude and overall health?

[prattypus]

Very active and curious- Not to sound bad, but I hope it's the parasite as opposed to a break- I think that may be easier to treat.

[guidofatherof5]

Watch what you wish for. Parasites are of the devil!:mad: I think I'd take a bloody beating for one of my snake rather then them having parasites. (I'm sure there are many who would give me that beating. Line forms on the right):eek:

[prattypus]

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Here are the best pics I can get. There is also a bit of an audible noise that I haven't heard before. Almost like a soft popping as she moves. I called into the vet but they aren't open until Tuesday. I will check tomorrow to see if any rep vets are working the holiday.

[drache]

that looks to me like something in the muscle and skin layers - either another worm or an abscess

[guidofatherof5]

What was the course of treatment when the last worm was found?

[prattypus]

It was near her tail- and was coming through the skin- I pulled it out with a toothpick.

[guidofatherof5]

It was near her tail- and was coming through the skin- I pulled it out with a toothpick.

Any follow-up meds? If not I would lean heavily towards a parasite.

[gregmonsta]

Could be Plerozercoids caused by tapeworms and from what I treat quite difficult to treat medically.

[count dewclaw]

Looks like the bump I pulled a thread-like worm out of on my ribbon snake. But it could also be an abcess, a trip to the vet would be a good idea.

[Snaky]

Looks like the bump I pulled a thread-like worm out of on my ribbon snake. But it could also be an abcess, a trip to the vet would be a good idea.
I second the trip to the vet...

[prattypus]

I took her to the vet today. I don't know what to think of this guy.

I had to work, and since I didn't have an appointment, I would have to leave her, and pick her up when I got off.

He did make a small incision and pulled out another worm. I didn't see it, but he told me it was sizable. I got a script for an antibiotic for the incision- He didn't give anything for worms, because he said that if there are any others in more vital areas, it wouldn't do her any good to kill them while in there.

He recommended that she be kept in quarantine, with store bought trout, salmon, etc treated with the standard supplement powder.

I am to watch over her to see if anymore surface. So, she got treatment, but it was more for the symptom, instead of the cause-

My fingers are crossed, and pray for the best.

[guidofatherof5]

Jason,

Great job getting her to the Vet.
She's lucky to have someone looking out for her.


I wonder if a snake could be given the same type of treatment a dog receives for heartworms. IV drip of arsenic. I had a dog treated once. My Vet said they give just enough poison to kill the worms but not the dog.
I wonder if this type or many types of parasites could be affectively managed by this kind of treatment. Not sure I would want to volunteer one of mine for a clinical trial. As hardy as Garters are I'm not very confident their systems could take that kind of poison, in any amount.
Just a though.

[drache]

I had a bunch of these subcutaneous worms come out of a couple of the xenochrophis I got a few years ago
eventually it just stopped, and the one snake that is still alive, is doing well

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

ugghhhhh jisueioaskdnsgdsg.

I am shaking with disgust.... parasites really flip me out!!! I dont know what I would do if I found these on one of my snakes...

At my store not too long ago, I saw something in some of our channel catfish's eyes. I took one out and held him still and inside each of his eyes there was a flatworm just swimming around in there!!! UUGHHH.

[gregmonsta]

Fingers crossed the patient will not have too many more of these ;)

[Odie]

Had to take fleecha in for Abrupt lump after feeding :(
She is doing fine :)
here are some pics of the surgical treatment :eek:
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[Odie]

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[Odie]

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The worm :mad:

[Odie]

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[Odie]

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[Odie]

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She is home and doing fine now :D

[gregmonsta]

Great to see those pictures :D .... glad she's home and on the mend :)

[guidofatherof5]

Great to see she's home.
Any course of treatment/prevention?
Was the worm identified?
Good job taking care of her.:)

[jitami]

That looks like quite the ordeal! Glad she's doing well! Do I dare ask what it cost?

[drache]

thanks for the photos
ditto all above questions
nice bandage too

[Snaky]

Interesting pictures, I hope she recovers swiftly :)

[bkhuff1s]

ewww... reminds me of this YouTube - Bot Fly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23eimVLAQ2c) try not to vomit...

[Odie]

Great to see she's home.
Any course of treatment/prevention?
Was the worm identified?
Good job taking care of her.:)
Just removel and antibiotics/No, it was something she eat before she came in to my care(WC).
Fluk :confused:

[Odie]

That looks like quite the ordeal! Glad she's doing well! Do I dare ask what it cost?
$267.83 for exam on monday & work on wensday.

[Odie]

thanks for the photos
ditto all above questions
nice bandage too
The bandage came off in robin's hands when we transfered her to her Viv.