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    "PM Boots For Custom Title" Albert Clark's Avatar
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    Very sad news...

    Hey community, it's with a very heavy heart and extreme sadness that I announce the passing of three of my most hopeful garter snakes. My two female pastel het grante (mom and first generation daughter) and my visual granite pastel male. I've been struggling with this setback for about two weeks now and debating on whether or not to post about it. I pulled them out of brumation almost two weeks ago to find them all deceased. The two females were cooled together in the same bin and the male was in with his father who survived. Don't have much to blame it on except maybe poor oxygenation by not opening the fridge door regularly or often enough. They all were conditioned well prior to going in and all were seemingly pretty healthy. My concinnus pair was also cooling at the same time and are all out and doing well. The granite checkered project was definitely one I was looking forward to as well but will have to take a step backwards now. My gut intuition is telling me that there was just a real poor oxygenation level in the fridge for some time. Didn't plan on the necropsy bc I just feel it was pure negligence on my part.
    Stay in peace and not pieces.

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    Re: Very sad news...

    Brumation kills snakes sometimes, its just part of the deal. If you don't cool enough or long enough you get less productivity, too much and you risk death. In over 12 years of breeding I don't think I have ever had a brumation with zero casualties, I usually loose a snake or two, no matter how much or how little I cool them.

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    Re: Very sad news...


    My condolences.

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    "PM Boots For Custom Title" Albert Clark's Avatar
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    Re: Very sad news...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff B View Post
    Brumation kills snakes sometimes, its just part of the deal. If you don't cool enough or long enough you get less productivity, too much and you risk death. In over 12 years of breeding I don't think I have ever had a brumation with zero casualties, I usually loose a snake or two, no matter how much or how little I cool them.
    Thank you Jeff for the factual commentary and support. It really lessens the impact for sure. And at least I do have the albino pastel female het granite and the related male parent to try again. Thanks.
    Stay in peace and not pieces.

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    "PM Boots For Custom Title" Albert Clark's Avatar
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    Re: Very sad news...

    Quote Originally Posted by Distaff View Post

    My condolences.
    Thanks D! That really helps.
    Stay in peace and not pieces.

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    Re: Very sad news...

    Very sorry to read this I hope the checkereds you have left can revive your project in the future.

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    Re: Very sad news...

    Sorry for your loss. With other snakes in the same brumation location I would say you should be a little easier on yourself. Stuff happens.
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    "PM Boots For Custom Title" Albert Clark's Avatar
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    Re: Very sad news...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zdravko092368 View Post
    Very sorry to read this I hope the checkereds you have left can revive your project in the future.
    Thank you Zdrav. I think I can work on it bc I am not at square one. I do want to continue the project.

    Quote Originally Posted by guidofatherof5 View Post
    Sorry for your loss. With other snakes in the same brumation location I would say you should be a little easier on yourself. Stuff happens.
    Thanks Steve, you're right and I will.
    Stay in peace and not pieces.

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    Re: Very sad news...

    Sorry for your loss Albert!
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    Re: Very sad news...

    Very sorry to hear that.

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