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    Baby Snake Feeding Concerns

    Hello! I'm the new owner of a baby Lined Snake (Tropidoclonium lineatum), which seems to have similar care to garter snakes. Based on my research, this is one of the best sites to get information, so here I am.

    So, according to my research, which I'm still working on, Lined Snakes are worm eaters. I have a tiny, hasn't-seen-many-days baby. I think a pinhead cricket may be bigger than the space between this little guy's eyes. He's far bigger in my mind than in reality as I keep thinking he's the same size as a newborn corn snake. But then I realize that he's not as thick as a pencil yet.

    My concern is, knowing that he's a wild caught snake, how do I go about feeding him worms? Is cutting up nightcrawlers the only way? Or is there a source out there somewhere that sells really tiny nightcrawlers? He seems fairly active and is pretty tolerant for such a little thing. I'm terrified of holding him any time soon as he's hardly more than a toothpick!

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    Re: Baby Snake Feeding Concerns

    Many walmart stores sell small night crawlers. They are usually labeled "baby crawlers".

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    Re: Baby Snake Feeding Concerns

    Be sure NOT to buy "Panfish worms" They are Eisenia fetida and put out a toxic fluid as a defense. They are called red wriggler, red worm, compost worms also.
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    Re: Baby Snake Feeding Concerns

    Thanks. Too bad about the red wrigglers though. I have a small composting bin in-home and it'd be so much easier if I could feed off from there. I've discovered some other major downsides to such a small snake. I'm worried he'll be able to escape the air holes I've made. He hasn't discovered them yet because they are so far above him but I'm sure one day he will. I'm also still trying to figure out a water dish for him. I don't have proper bedding as I'd like to see what his first poo is like so I can't bury a water dish to ground level. And all my bottle caps are too tall! I should really take a photo but I've all ready bothered him twice today and now he's checking out his new egg crate hide. I'm always surprised at how small he is when I go to bother him!

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    Re: Baby Snake Feeding Concerns

    Hello, and welcome to the forum. Small nightcrawlers cut up tiny sounds like a plan. As he grows you can scent other small prey with the nightcrawler.
    Stay in peace and not pieces.

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    Re: Baby Snake Feeding Concerns

    What is the enclosure made out of? Sounds like maybe some sort of plastic since you were talking about making air holes. I've raised both millipedes and wolf spiders from eggs, so I have some experience with keeping extremely tiny animals contained lol. There are really two good options for that; the first is a paper that is air-permeable (I don't think it's easy to come by though). The second is getting squares of mesh large enough to cover the air holes and using superglue to secure it on the outside of the enclosure. Still allows for air exchange, but prevents an escape.
    If you're worried about bottle caps being too high for a water dish, the lids from cake icing containers and also the lids for condiment cups like what you get at a lot of takeout places might work.
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    Re: Baby Snake Feeding Concerns

    Thanks. I wish I'd seen this before I got a wild hair and bit the bullet at Petco. I picked up a round critter keeper. It's smaller than I'd like but almost four times the length of the little guy so it will do for now. I also got some Eco earth (love that stuff!) and a very shallow dish that I've buried to ground level. I haven't seen the little guy since I put him in there. He found a loose pile of earth and dug right on down. My room's decor must not be to his liking for him to hide from it that fast!

    I'm still having a terrible time finding earthworms on the smaller side. I went to eight different stores including reptile shops, Walmart and bait shops. All of their worms were bigger than my snake! I briefly thought about trying hornworms as they are soft-bodied once you clip the horn, but I just can't see him going after something like that. I do know that this species is supposed to eat sow bugs. I'd go get some from the yard today, but alas! We're covered in several inches of snow. And yet it was in the seventies all week. Got to love Colorado!

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    Re: Baby Snake Feeding Concerns

    Find a safe place(pesticide free) and dig some up. Flip some rock and collect some.
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    Re: Baby Snake Feeding Concerns

    I'd love to, but we now have 3 feet of snow. Lol

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    Re: Baby Snake Feeding Concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by canterburywine View Post
    I'd love to, but we now have 3 feet of snow. Lol
    That is a bit problematic.
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