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    Re: Mice make garters bigger then on worms?

    All I can say is that, in many years of breeding marcianus, I've VERY seldom had a stillborn baby, nor anything but the very occasional infertile ova. I've never fed anything but rodents, and never provided UV lighting. My checkereds are kept exactly like my other colubrids-in rack systems with a heat-tape "hot spot" at one end.

    After two decades, and hundreds of snakes bred, I think I can at least say that for this one species (T. marcianus), neither UV lighting nor a varied diet is either necessary or desirable (inasmuch as fish, worms and amphibians have a much greater potential of introducing harmful pathogens than frozen/thawed rodents).

    I can't, of course, say anything about other species/ssp of which I have much less direct experience.

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    Re: Mice make garters bigger then on worms?

    Quote Originally Posted by BChambers View Post
    All I can say is that, in many years of breeding marcianus, I've VERY seldom had a stillborn baby, nor anything but the very occasional infertile ova. I've never fed anything but rodents, and never provided UV lighting. My checkereds are kept exactly like my other colubrids-in rack systems with a heat-tape "hot spot" at one end.

    After two decades, and hundreds of snakes bred, I think I can at least say that for this one species (T. marcianus), neither UV lighting nor a varied diet is either necessary or desirable (inasmuch as fish, worms and amphibians have a much greater potential of introducing harmful pathogens than frozen/thawed rodents).

    I can't, of course, say anything about other species/ssp of which I have much less direct experience.
    Yea!!! now my question is, why does it happen to some people, but not others?! you and I both feed differently but get the same results!
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    Re: Mice make garters bigger then on worms?

    Quote Originally Posted by aSnakeLovinBabe View Post
    Yea!!! now my question is, why does it happen to some people, but not others?! you and I both feed differently but get the same results!
    I don't know the answer to your question for sure, but as an educated guess-I'd say that, while a varied diet may not be necessary, it is also not necessarily harmful-and in many cases may be beneficial-as long as the keeper (like yourself) is extremely careful about the issues of parasite transmission and thiaminase.

    I know you keep and breed red-striped ribbons, and I would NEVER recommend feeding that species a rodent-only diet!

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    Re: Mice make garters bigger then on worms?

    Quote Originally Posted by BChambers View Post
    I don't know the answer to your question for sure, but as an educated guess-I'd say that, while a varied diet may not be necessary, it is also not necessarily harmful-and in many cases may be beneficial-as long as the keeper (like yourself) is extremely careful about the issues of parasite transmission and thiaminase.

    I know you keep and breed red-striped ribbons, and I would NEVER recommend feeding that species a rodent-only diet!
    right now my holdback trio are getting a pinky or silverside strips every other feeding! The funny part is the first time I offered pinkies I did it without any scenting and they went CRAZY for them!!!
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    Re: Mice make garters bigger then on worms?

    Quote Originally Posted by aSnakeLovinBabe View Post
    right now my holdback trio are getting a pinky or silverside strips every other feeding! The funny part is the first time I offered pinkies I did it without any scenting and they went CRAZY for them!!!
    Now that really surprises me -the ones from around here (Cibolo Creek, Kendall County, TX) turn up their noses at pinks!

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