Not new to Thams, but new here!

[ConcinusMan]

Nice. The two normal concinnus look pretty typical of the one's found in my area (Clark Co. WA). Recently lost my female. She died after giving birth. She was around 24 years old (I had her for 21)and roughly 3 1/2 feet long. You said the two normals are females but I have to disagree. That long thin one with his tail at the top of the picture is most definitely male. I too once had a melanistic ordinoides. If one is patient, they can be found in my area. Perhaps one in a few thousand is melanistic in this area. I've even found a few that look strikingly like T. marcianus.

Great to have another T. concinnus fan with us.

[Mike Spencer]

Nice. The two normal concinnus look pretty typical of the one's found in my area (Clark Co. WA). Recently lost my female. She died after giving birth. She was around 24 years old (I had her for 21)and roughly 3 1/2 feet long. You said the two normals are females but I have to disagree. That long thin one with his tail at the top of the picture is most definitely male. I too once had a melanistic ordinoides. If one is patient, they can be found in my area. Perhaps one in a few thousand is melanistic in this area. I've even found a few that look strikingly like T. marcianus.

Great to have another T. concinnus fan with us.

To be honest, when I first got her, I thought she too was a male. But she probed to be female that year, and she is a proven breeder, therefore making her 100% female. She is the same girl I listed in the classifieds, but I just sold her today to a friend and marked it as sold.

She is from Multnomah Co. Oregon stock while the female on the left is from a Polk Co. Oregon bloodline.