Not new to Thams, but new here!

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

@ aSnakeLovinBabe: Not you too! another concinnus owner? I can't believe it. 15 years ago, hardly any Thamnophis breeder even knew what I was talking about and was totally unfamiliar with the subspecies. Now I'm hearing about concinnus breeders on other continents and I've found so many right here in this forum. Wow. Oh, and it wasn't "thickness" that threw me off. It's the long, thin body and tail that made me think it was male. The overall gradual tapering. Of course, from the photo, I don't have the option of looking underneath to see the distance from vent to tail tip.

oh yes! me too! I own 2.2 concinnus at the moment, 1.2 of those are my high black/reduced pattern project. With those I am aiming to make an all black snake with the bright green stripe and bright red head. My females are almost at that point, but not quite. and 1 is what I call the rainbow male. Concinnus is actually one of the very first subspecies of garter I worked with. Rhea (username Drache) is sending me her Concinnus female who has similar features to my rainbow male, so that we may selectively breed for the most colorful concinnus out there! I had a REALLY cool male that had some abberrant-looking splotches of black bleeding all through his normal colors, but sadly I lost him.

[Mike Spencer]

oh yes! me too! I own 2.2 concinnus at the moment, 1.2 of those are my high black/reduced pattern project. With those I am aiming to make an all black snake with the bright green stripe and bright red head. My females are almost at that point, but not quite. and 1 is what I call the rainbow male. Concinnus is actually one of the very first subspecies of garter I worked with. Rhea (username Drache) is sending me her Concinnus female who has similar features to my rainbow male, so that we may selectively breed for the most colorful concinnus out there! I had a REALLY cool male that had some abberrant-looking splotches of black bleeding all through his normal colors, but sadly I lost him.

I saw your 'rainbow' on KS. I believe I commented on it. Gorgeous concinnus. I have one I haven't gotten pics of yet that is rainbowed, but it's washed out as if it is hypo. So I'm gonna breed it out before I make any assumptions about him.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

I saw your 'rainbow' on KS. I believe I commented on it. Gorgeous concinnus. I have one I haven't gotten pics of yet that is rainbowed, but it's washed out as if it is hypo. So I'm gonna breed it out before I make any assumptions about him.

Thanks! One day I showed him to my brother who instantly said "he looks like a flaming rainbow"... the name stuck and thus he is the rainbow concinnus forever!!!! His lateral stripes are bright teal blue... and the coolest thing is the LIME green on his face, it hurts your eyes! I simply love him!

Three of my concinnus lack lateral stripes. I generally prefer them to be that way. The three that lack lateral stripes have green dorsals, and the rainbow male's is more of a brilliant yellow. Two of them have black stomachs, and rainbow man and one of my high blacks have blue stomachs. I have also seen concinnus with tan, and occasionally white dorsals. They are incredibly variable and don't be surprised when I end up with yet another phenotype of concinnus that I just could not resist!!!

[Mike Spencer]

Thanks! One day I showed him to my brother who instantly said "he looks like a flaming rainbow"... the name stuck and thus he is the rainbow concinnus forever!!!! His lateral stripes are bright teal blue... and the coolest thing is the LIME green on his face, it hurts your eyes! I simply love him!

Three of my concinnus lack lateral stripes. I generally prefer them to be that way. The three that lack lateral stripes have green dorsals, and the rainbow male's is more of a brilliant yellow. Two of them have black stomachs, and rainbow man and one of my high blacks have blue stomachs. I have also seen concinnus with tan, and occasionally white dorsals. They are incredibly variable and don't be surprised when I end up with yet another phenotype of concinnus that I just could not resist!!!

I have a female with a black belly and yellow dorsal, as well as a female with a lime green dorsal and turquoise belly. One of my anerys have almost a solid black belly, and the other has a black belly with whitish speckling. They are highly variable. I have a few more that are all in between as well.