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    Re: Cross breeding, need help.

    well all dogs are same family....people breed this wierd dog thats a wolf hybird (stupid once they mature you gatta lay down on them for a long time so they submit to ur domanince), tegus (red and black and white, horses and donkeys for mules, but i do see valid point....who dosnt want to play god tho...and if its in a controlled enviorment with best possable care and a responsable owner i dtill dont see whats all that wrong...but i do see the more of the dark side of cross breeding but id love more opinions and comments...i was thinkn for a while about crossing a flordia blue stripe (yes i know its a morph) with a rd spotted garter....but iv pretty much given up on that idea....untill im in my 40s and out of school and have the time to get the permits....if i havent been talked out of it that is.
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    Re: Cross breeding, need help.

    Quote Originally Posted by mustang View Post
    well all dogs are same family....people breed this wierd dog thats a wolf hybird (stupid once they mature you gatta lay down on them for a long time so they submit to ur domanince)
    I know this is off topic, but I can't ignore the mis-information you have just written above. Dogs are Canis lupis familiaris. Wolves are Canis lupis. Therefore, dog x wolf breedings are not true hybrids and the species of both dog and wolf are the same. The dog is a subspecies. For this reason, responsible people who work with animals that are part wolf and part dog, call them wolfdogs, and do not call them wolf hybrids.

    Also, I don't know where you got your info about "lay(ing) down on them for a long time so they submit to your dominance". I think what you may be describing is an "alpha roll", which is a training technique that used to be done with dogs of any breed. The alpha roll involved rolling the dog over on its back and holding its throat with your hand for a SHORT time. Here is information about this training technique and why it is NOT PROPER to use it!

    The Alpha Roll - LoveToKnow Dogs#
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    Re: Cross breeding, need help.

    Quote Originally Posted by KITKAT View Post
    I know this is off topic, but I can't ignore the mis-information you have just written above. Dogs are Canis lupis familiaris. Wolves are Canis lupis. Therefore, dog x wolf breedings are not true hybrids and the species of both dog and wolf are the same. The dog is a subspecies. For this reason, responsible people who work with animals that are part wolf and part dog, call them wolfdogs, and do not call them wolf hybrids.
    All Canis lupus subspecies are grey wolves, dogs included. In the dog's case, I consider its classification as a subspecies highly questionable and I personally wouldn't rank it higher than a form (Forma).

    Subspecies of Canis lupus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Cross breeding, need help.

    Quote Originally Posted by mustang View Post
    and if its in a controlled enviorment with best possable care and a responsable owner i dtill dont see whats all that wrong...
    the very most responsible owner can have something happen that's beyond their control - like have a freak accident or die of a heart attack
    the only true controlled environment would be one that is highly secure as a facility, where meticulous records are being kept, and more than one person knows exactly what's going on, or at least how to glean it from the records
    I can't imagine that that applies to you, or most of us on the forum (not me, for sure)
    so let's just do our best to protect the natural state of these animals and keep the god playing to the realm of inanimate objects
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