Glad to hear it! I think perhaps they realized how much money they could make on these herps that they were finding, and got greedy. Glad they got busted. It brings up a question though. My last pair of concinnus were WC, individually, at different locales. Technically, keeping these wild snakes in WA is illegal, since they are wildlife. Fish and game knew i had them, but allowed me to go ahead and keep them, I think, in part because I let them in without a warrant, cooperated, and agreed they should take my rubber boa. So the question is, would selling the CB concinnus offspring, say, over the internet, for a song, shipping them to various places around the world, be illegal? Would that be the same crime? I'm not sure. I only collected a pair, but produced around 170 offspring in their time with me. I mean, concinnus eventually made it into the pet trade some how. If not like I suggested, then how?