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[ConcinusMan]

Well done Steve. Good post.

I'm still thinking it won't hurt one bit to put garters of opposite sex together. I mean to imply canadian garters. It's not likely they will breed without distinct seasonal changes. Also very unlikely that they will eat each other. Given plenty of room and plenty of hiding places you could even keep a wide range of sizes together. Just my humble opinion.

I'm keeping T. ordinoides and T. s. concinnus together. As small as 5 inches, all the way up to 28 inches. They get along just fine. They sometimes huddle together just like one big happy family. It's soooo cute. Have to watch out for the concinnus at feeding time though. They will bite and attempt to swallow anything that smells like fish. That includes themselves, other snakes, glass, fingers, footballs, anything!

If it smells like fish, it must be fish and must go down the throat, like NOW!

Good thing my ex isn't around anymore.. oh wait. did I just go there?

[gregmonsta]

I'm still thinking it won't hurt one bit to put garters of opposite sex together. I mean to imply canadian garters. It's not likely they will breed without distinct seasonal changes. Also very unlikely that they will eat each other. Given plenty of room and plenty of hiding places you could even keep a wide range of sizes together. Just my humble opinion.

I still wouldn't chance this at all. I have a red-sided male that shows his willingness to mate without brumation and randomly throughout the year. I would still be a risk in my opinion.