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    Re: Gravid female Eastern!!

    Congratulatoins on the life one's, they look really nice
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    Re: Gravid female Eastern!!

    Wow! Ils sont superbes!!

    Is it possible to know the sex on small baby like these? I find the orange ones very cute.

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    Re: Gravid female Eastern!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Barak666 View Post
    Wow! Ils sont superbes!!

    Is it possible to know the sex on small baby like these? I find the orange ones very cute.
    You can sex them the day they are born. If fact that will be the easiest day of their life to sex them via popping, it gets more difficult as they develope muscle tone, then you usually have to probe.

    Congrats Charles! Do you think some will develope the solid black back like mom? I was wondering if any would be born like that, but it doens't look like it from what I could see from the pics.

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    Re: Gravid female Eastern!!

    One thing I have never had trouble with is sexing T. sirtalis (any ssp) neonates or adults visually. I don't understand why people feel the need to pop or probe. Enlighten me.

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    Re: Gravid female Eastern!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    One thing I have never had trouble with is sexing T. sirtalis (any ssp) neonates or adults visually. I don't understand why people feel the need to pop or probe. Enlighten me.

    I thought that once too, and got it wrong more than once.

    when you are selling morphs for a good price, customers get riled when they order a pair and wind up with a same sex couple.

    A couple of years ago Stefan put up some pics and asked us to guess, 90% of the guesses were incorrect.

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    Re: Gravid female Eastern!!

    Wow, you're kidding me!

    But mainly I guess I was wondering why Don felt the need to pop/probe newborn iowa albinos. When I got Amy from him, I could hold her up to a light and see her organs, I could see her heart, her lung working, and I could see the progress as her meal made it's way through her system. There was obviously no male parts, the light passed right through that area.

    Even without the advantage of semi-transparency, I still would have guessed her to be female.

    It is seriously that hard to sex easterns visually? No offense but if it's pictures posted on the web, error rates go up. In person, some snakes are obviously male, some obviously female. And sure, there are always a few that are questionable.

    congrats on the litter. That's one fine tangled mess of squiggly fun!

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    Re: Gravid female Eastern!!

    Congrats. Lovely babies and very good pics.

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    Re: Gravid female Eastern!!

    I have a whole bunch of eastern squiggles. From what I can tell, the females are significantly larger than the males. That being said, the only other difference I can visually see without turning them upside down is their heads are also very much larger than their male counter parts. This is just a general observation and by no means meant to be taken as concrete. This is just my personal observation with the crew I have.
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    Re: Gravid female Eastern!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    One thing I have never had trouble with is sexing T. sirtalis (any ssp) neonates or adults visually. I don't understand why people feel the need to pop or probe. Enlighten me.
    think of it as a way to 100% sure on the sex then 99.9% because that .1% can be hte difference between a happy and angry customer
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    Re: Gravid female Eastern!!

    good answer!
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