Man, Don, those Northwesterns in the second pic are from that orange 3 stripe female I send to you. I didn't expect them to be so dark! The tub doesn't help really. I found it's easier to get better pics of the babies if I place them in a jar and take pics from above in a well-lit room. The white of the paper towel throws off the camera and makes the babies look darker than they really are.

But still, I can't help thinking that my red stripe girl litter and yours, might just get more color in the stripes when they get older... I don't know. Never raised any that far.