Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
Yes. T. elegans terrestris and T.e. elegans in N. California stink worse than any garter I've ever smelled. It's so dang overpowering you can practically taste it and lingers in your senses for quite some time. Harder to wash off your hands than most garters.
You need to get an Eastern Blackneck to truly experience musk that lasts and is potent!