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    Re: This is a 1st for me... never a reptile.

    Wait.. aren't these all the same?:
    Wandering = Western Terrestrial = Thamnophis elegans :-P

    ..But she's an eater Now, that's for sure! Haven't fed her fish since the week of 13, just 5 pinkies since. RedSidedSPR: I can't let her eat till she stops cuz she doesn't know how-- after 13 she was still ready for more lol. And I'm not going to mess with many minnows/gfish/guppies as they all carry their own prob's, maybe just on occasion. Have yet to try silver sides or grub worms, so we'll see.. just didn't want too many pinkies to make Sergeant "grow too fast with a week heart," so the 10-20% rule sounds like a good place to start **so how often do you feed it a %age of its body weight?- just when the visual percentage in the belly goes down?

    ...Where're you at exactly, Reptile65?
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    Re: This is a 1st for me... never a reptile.

    Quote Originally Posted by nomoreposs View Post
    Wait.. aren't these all the same?:
    Wandering = Western Terrestrial = Thamnophis elegans :-P
    No. As with Thamnophis sirtalis, there are several subspecies. T. sirtalis sirtalis (eastern garter) T. sirtalis concinnus (oregon red spotted) T. sirtalis pickeringii (puget sound garter) and the list goes on. They are not the same, and shouldn't be allowed to breed across subspecies and therefore you should keep them the same sex, or don't put the subspecies in the same tank. T. elegans vagrans (wandering garter) are known to eat each other, or other garters.

    A wandering garter is a Thamnophis elegans vagrans. There are also others. T. elegans zaxanthus (Diablo range garter) T. elegans terrestris (coast garter) etc. etc.

    These are several subspecies of T. elegans: elegans

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    Re: This is a 1st for me... never a reptile.

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    These are several subspecies of T. elegans: elegans
    Two, to be exact.

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    Re: This is a 1st for me... never a reptile.

    Quote Originally Posted by nomoreposs View Post
    ...Where're you at exactly, Reptile65?
    I live permanently in Westminster but I go to school in Fort Collins.

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