San francisco garters?

[guidofatherof5]

All the current snakes are produced from the original snakes shipped to Europe many years ago.

Udo can give some specific on when they were shipped and how many.

[Stefan-A]

All the current snakes are produced from the original snakes shipped to Europe many years ago.

Udo can give some specific on when they were shipped and how many.

San Francisco Garter Snake : Thamnophis.com

Note the url and the authors.

[RepGuru]

thanks for that link - a very informative article indeed although the numbers os specimens seems badly outdated. My own desire to obtain a couple of specimens in England has so far been unsuccessful. Just one opportunity came my way but the price was just off the reasonable scale!!

[PINJOHN]

it might be best to be cautious when it comes to san frans its being claimed that in the UK at least, some are unexpectedly dyeing at around two years of age,
i would recommend contacting Alan Francis as he knows his stuff, and he gets his garters from as wide a source as possible, he is very friendly and helpful.

[RepGuru]

Yes I'm aware of this problem. The one's I was offered were from someone ultra reliable and trustworthy. He would not risk his reputation by selling on animals with any problems at all. The asking price was insane so I'm still looking.....!