Catching Tadpoles?

[RedSidedSPR]

I decided against it! BEFORE you said all this crap!! No worries, I'm not gonna do it!!

I had NO IDEA about the whole ecosystem threats, If I had I wouldn't have done it!! I love frogs and nature too, when I grow up I'm going to be a herpetologist! I never would have done this!! Sorry.

It was a 1/8 of all the tadpoles there, I didn't think it would do any harm.

I understand your concern, but you could have just told me! I would have understood, and not done it (like i did)

Please forgive me, please understand that I had no intention of destroying the whole freakin' continents frog population.

I understand the allure of getting free snakes, but it's not worth the potential harm that could cause

I agree. SORRY.

I'll just buy the "damn snake"

Seems to me that if tadpoles would make a difference and get them to eat, so would anything resembling them, such as guppies.

Didn't you read my thread?? After weeks of trying guppies, i offered my snake a tadpole, and within 2 seconds, no hesitation, he grabbed it out of my hand. He will eat tadpole-scented guppies now, but no unscented. Make sense? Of course, snakes rely on eyesight and resemblance, not scent.

you will notice on her thread that not one of us pointed out the damage to the ecosystem or cruelty to toads or indeed any of the objections that were put forward on this thread, is it perhaps because we all enjoy other members herping adventures so much that we can look the other way when it suits us, i am waiting with baited breath for
Shannons next herping report which means i suppose that i find the death of some creatures acceptable when it suits me, and it looks like i am not the only member to hold this view.

And I doubt if Shannon (or Steve, or Richard, or god forbid Wayne) had posted this, if anyone would care. They'd just give 'em some advice, and wish 'em good luck.

If I thought you were going to start playing this angle, I NEVER would have told you how to get your snake eating.

Secondly I gave you that info in a pm with confidentiality, then you turn around and publicly post it..

I give up.

I had no idea "this angle" had anything wrong with it.

I had no idea you were trying to hide your suggestion that worked so well. Maybe you should have told me. And I did not publicly post your PM, I simply asked for some advice, and I have never regretted anything more.

I don't need your advice. I (with the help of willing people) can take care of my "damn snake".

[Sonya610]

And I doubt if Shannon (or Steve, or Richard, or god forbid Wayne) had posted this, if anyone would care. They'd just give 'em some advice, and wish 'em good luck.

No, I don't think that is true. Grant it the condemnation might not have been so blatant, but no one would encourage it and others would likely offer suggestions to avoid doing it.

When people suggested it was not a good idea and you explained your reasons for doing it (profit) that pretty much opened the floodgates.

Don't get all upset. You made the right decision.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

And I doubt if Shannon (or Steve, or Richard, or god forbid Wayne) had posted this, if anyone would care. They'd just give 'em some advice, and wish 'em good luck.

Myself, Steve, Richard and Wayne would not post a thread like this because we already know how damaging removing a large number of specimens from the wild can be. You didn't know, you were caught up in the moment and you couldn't see the bigger picture. But now you know! No harm done. No one is ganging up on you, everyone just happens to already know better and is now trying to get you to join the ranks. If there are not a zillion tadpoles available, it's not really justifiable to take 100. Where I was, ONE scoop of a net could have easily netted 1,000+ tadpoles. Although, I didn't touch them at all.

In my recent thread, the number of toad-poles was so overwhelming... and yes it will be inevitable that babies will be stepped on. I go through it every year when I go to that place late summer. But at this lake there is an over-abundance. Not even enough predators to eat the toads. I think the yearling toads feast on the babies and that's the only thing that keeps them in check!

[RedSidedSPR]

First, I never asked for advice. I asked for tips.

Everyone was just trying to help you realize that it wouldn't be the best decision.

No, everybody's telling me I'm an A-hole for thinking it.

Don't get all upset. You made the right decision.

Because you all told me it was wrong. But you could (not u, others) have just told me, not hammering me at being an idiot.

I'm glad you decided not to do it.
When you post something asking for advice people are going to give you advice to the best of their knowledge. Even if it disagrees with what you mentioned, it wasn't a personal attack.

I didn't ask for advice. And with a lot of people, it was a personal attack. You didn't see my PMs.

Myself, Steve, Richard and Wayne would not post a thread like this because we already know how damaging removing a large number of specimens from the wild can be. You didn't know, you were caught up in the moment and you couldn't see the bigger picture. But now you know! No harm done. No one is ganging up on you, everyone just happens to already know better and is now trying to get you to join the ranks. If there are not a zillion tadpoles available, it's not really justifiable to take 100. Where I was, ONE scoop of a net could have easily netted 1,000+ tadpoles. Although, I didn't touch them at all.

In my recent thread, the number of toad-poles was so overwhelming... and yes it will be inevitable that babies will be stepped on. I go through it every year when I go to that place late summer. But at this lake there is an over-abundance. Not even enough predators to eat the toads. I think the yearling toads feast on the babies and that's the only thing that keeps them in check!

Thank you, that's what I'm saying. I didn't know, you told me, I didn't do it. My bad for thinking the thought.
I have never regretted anything more than the posting of this thread.

Also for those of you said this, THERE WAS A LOT MORE TADS THAN I THOUGHT. I could have easily caught 200. And the place wouldn't miss them. It's just harder to find them because of the stuff on the surface. Leaves, moss, cans, bottles.

But I only caught 2, for myself, so I could scent guppies with it, and get my snake to eat. Anyone who doesn't like that, can hit me all they want.

[d_virginiana]

I didn't ask for advice. And with a lot of people, it was a personal attack. You didn't see my PMs.

Sorry, I thought you were looking for others' perspectives when you posted this thread. If 'tips' rather than 'advice' was what you were looking for, then I don't know what you expected other than basic frog knowledge like 'tadpoles live in still bodies of water and hide under detritus'. Not trying to be sarcastic, but that's really the only tips I think anyone could've given.

Even if you got angry messages, taking it out on people who didn't send them and were only trying to be helpful really doesn't serve any purpose...

Regardless, you didn't know when you posted the thread, now you do, ect. No hard feelings??